re: Toxic Fandom: How Hollywood Is Battling Fans Who Are ‘Just Out For Blood’

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People aren’t out for blood. They’re tired of having an agenda shoved down their throats and franchises they’ve been a fan of for decades be brought down by it.

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this. in the last few years there has been numerous properties brought to life that i was genuinely excited about.

Wheel of Time
Last of Us
Halo
LotR
Witcher
Reacher

EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. OF. THE. SHOWRUNNERS. had a a very easy laid out path and decided that they were smarter than the source material and could do a better job.

Last of us was good but they wasted two whole episodes that weren't terrible but were solely for agenda.

Terminal List and Fallout were the only two where i felt like they let the OG come through.

THEY
CAN'T
FIGURE
OUT
BLADE

Ffs, they have one of the great actors of a generation signed on to play him

A god damn layup.

Anyone on this board could hammer out a Blade script in an afternoon


1. Cool black guy
2. Cool swords and tech
3. Killing tons of vampires
4. fill out rest with generic whogivesafrick
5. Make dollars

Bonus Points* Cameo by Snipes

Easiest layup Marvel has in their arsenal

Figuring out Blade would

- remind audiences that black superheroes existed on film before Black Panther.

- remind audiences how bad arse a black superhero could be.

- remind audiences that the writers are retarded.

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that would make a billion dollars, given the other points

Never said it would be an Oscar winner

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Don’t worry about Jay Are.

She doesn’t like the concept of a non-progressive movie.

Blade is easy as frick…if they just stick to the character and comic.

Have action scenes like Deadpool.

The movie would make a billion.

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It's because [Leslie Jones] went on the defense and made it about race. It was never about race - it was about people waiting 30 years for a seuqle to a beloved film and that sequel having nothing to do with the originals and that it starred approximately 1/2 of a funny person's worth of actor's.

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This is one aspect of this “toxic fandom” thing I have been saying since 2016 when the Ghostbusters remake came out. Paul Feig and the actresses went on the defensive on everyone who was not instantly supportive, calling fans “basement dwellers” and whatnot. The problem and toxicity was something they somewhat created themselves and it could have all been avoided pretty easily. No one involved in that film took into account the “waiting 30 years” thing and seemed to forget that, since 1990, Dan Ackroyd had, every few years or so, talked in some interview about progress made on Ghostbusters 3 and how they were “really close to going into production” so many times. This wasn’t the case of a movie coming out in 1984 and not being talked about in any way shape or form for 30 years and then they announce are remake. This was a situation where fans were constantly being teased with a third installment so it stands to reason that any announcement of a remake would not be received well, whether with team of Ghostbusters made of women or men.

And in truth, all the remake had to do was to adhere to a line that Bill Murray said in the original Ghostbusters movie where he talked about the “franchising rights alone could be worth millions.” If they wanted to do a lady Ghostbusters, just set it in the same world as the original Ghostbusters movie and treat them like a franchise opening up after 25 or 30 years of no ghost sightings in the world. Instead of having the original actors cameo as random characters, have them show up at the end just like they did at the end of Ghostbusters Afterlife. Have the Kate McKinnon character be someone who were defines the technology of Egon Spengler instead of creating it brand new. Maybe have her be a niece even. Excluding the part of the movie where people don’t believe in the existence of ghosts period, much of the narrative of that movie could have been completely unchanged by setting it in the world of the original Ghostbusters. Also, then they could’ve taken advantage of the fact that they filmed the movie in Boston by just setting it in Boston.

I do agree with the “toxic fandom” part where people attacked Leslie Jones. Even though she did speak negatively towards fans, going after her and sending her death, threats or posting personal pictures from her cell phone online was pretty sick of people to have done, especially because aside from a couple of the scenes of her character that were shown in the trailer, such as her getting dropped when trying to do the Mosh pit thing and asking “is this a lady thing or a black thing“ and the scene where she slapping Melissa McCartney and yelling “the power of Patty protects you,” her character through the rest of the film was actually nowhere near as bad as it seemed like it would be. That doesn’t change the fact that the 2016 Ghostbusters was just an unfunny film, but this is just one example of the creative woke types complaining about a small component of people who are complaining and are actually terrible and misogynistic people, but instead directing insulting words towards people who have genuine complaints or concerns, and that escalation is what is causing fandom to reject what people are doing to these long-standing franchisees.

And the fact the matter is that fandom can accept something new, which is shown by the fact that people didn’t reject having either youthful or useful female characters as primary protagonist in Ghostbuster Afterlife and its sequel. Also, male fans have long been accepting of actual good and well written and well performed female lead characters. I mean, have these woke types forgotten the fact that characters such as Ripley from Aliens or Sarah Connor exist? Or in modern times, look at the acclaim the first wonder, woman movie got and how no one was bashing Gal Gadot for her performance, That movie simply told a superhero origin film In the mold of all classic superhero origin, films, just this time with a female superhero instead of a male one.

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I agree the concept of Blade is really cool, but we got one pretty good Blade movie. Out of three. The good Blade movie did not stick to the comics.

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We got 3 Blade movies. One was great, one was good, one was meh.

All were alot of fun

Today’s America. Everyone is always right. It’s always someone else’s fault.

They’re clueless, spiteful and above all talentless people. Another degenerative feature of those types of thinkers is that they view the past as evil therefore they can’t learn from it so where as before you had a sort of building upon things that were done previously to continuously improve that’s all stopped now. This is why you get writers who only write about themselves, actors who don’t act and just play themselves, who can’t be a character that has different views from themselves. Directors who do the same so even the best stuff they can produce has a low ceiling. These studios as constructed can’t improve because of these things and if it’s going to turn around there would have to be mass firings which I’m not sure can happen with the current social terrorism that’s pervasive in todays culture.