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re: Toxic Fandom: How Hollywood Is Battling Fans Who Are ‘Just Out For Blood’

Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:28 pm to
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The funny part, as I see it, is people demanding what the authors/creators do. Eat a dick or write it yourself.


So is there a difference between Peter Jackson making Lord of the Rings and trying to stay as close to the world as possible and then the creators of the Rings of Power making something totally new? Or is that really the same in the end?

People are not demanding anything beyond keeping the world and characters as they are - and, most of the time, it's NOT the original creator changing a thing to fit some new political narrative. People DON'T want someone messing with something they like.

Again, you guys always miss the point in this.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:33 pm to
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General audiences don’t actually want this.


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A single rom-com based on a book is as close as you get to original content:

Because the original content was GOOD, and nobody went?

That is what you are saying?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:33 pm to

Stop blaming fans who pay your salaries or the beatings will continue.


It's not that hard to figure out.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:44 pm to
You forgot "IF: at #14

so 2 movies that weren't sequels or remakes

and also going to the top 20, you get Longlegs and Bob Marley

Beekeeper, Migration, and Civil War in the top 25

People are hungry for new products and IP's. Look how eager people were for Rebel Moon, before it turned out to be horrid.

Writing in Hollywood is worse than it has ever been at any point in my lifetime. Writers are being cast, rather than hired. . .and it shows.

LINK
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8043 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:51 pm to
If i remember correctly from the tv series The Last of Us it completely changed the dynamic of the couple's relationship. They said they didnt want to put the only gay couple in a bad light so they made it appear as if the Frank died of some disease. In the game Frank actually grew to hate Bill and was running away from him and then gets bit by a clicker, writes Bill a note saying howmuch he hated Bill then hung himself. Thats kind of a big change in the dynamics of this couple if you ask me.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37539 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:17 pm to
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studios will assemble a specialized cluster of superfans to assess possible marketing materials for a major franchise project.

“They’re very vocal,” says the studio exec. “They will just tell us, ‘If you do that, fans are going to retaliate.’” These groups have even led studios to alter the projects: “If it’s early enough and the movie isn’t finished yet, we can make those kinds of changes.”



It wouldn't be necessary if they used writers, actors, and directors who actually are fans of the material.

If you want to inspire a bad reaction allow a writer who hates the characters and fans of a franchise to destroy the original meaning. If your goal is subversion you should expect the response
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
2368 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:34 pm to
I get ire at the studio monoliths pulling levers for dollars...

but otherwise why are you all so caught up in the preservation of the story as you first experienced it?

How poor would the world be if the first volume was always the last?

And besides that, why do you feel empowered to dictate how the creative product will manifest? Just because you loved it as a kid, you get editorial input?

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:24 pm to
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If you want to inspire a bad reaction allow a writer who hates the characters and fans of a franchise to destroy the original meaning. If your goal is subversion you should expect the response


Or do what Marvel/Disney has done in some recent instances and tell your writers that they aren't allowed to read the source material.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:42 pm to
Honoring and respecting the lore and the stories that came before, is not the same as wanting to watch the same story

The idea of The Acolyte, for example, had everyone excited. . .then came one of the worst promotional tours that could have possibly been undertaken. It was like a masterclass in how to turn enthusiasm into apathy. . .or outright disdain.

They saw Rachel Zegler, and said "hold my box wine"
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:28 pm to
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do what Marvel/Disney has done in some recent instances and tell your writers that they aren't allowed to read the source material.


This is a bastardization of something an marvel executive said on The Town pod that got aggregated by the comics clickbait homes.

He said they preferred pitches from directors/screenwriter that weren't so attracted to just one version of a given character. Because all marvel characters have had countless iterations with inconsistent and shifting continuities. Seems like a smart philosophy for trying to adapt generations-old characters.

So, yeah, they've always been allowed to read the source material.
Posted by johnqpublic
Right here
Member since Oct 2017
850 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:32 pm to
If people can review bomb RT and other sites, what is to prevent LARGE corporations with billions from hiring a few programmers to create bots to only post positive reviews on said sites?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:36 pm to
There were writers who were told NOT to read source material, iirc

That may have been Witcher, though
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 6:37 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:44 pm to
Oh look, a thread about an article blaming retard fans for acting like whiny, spoiled children is not being well received on this board



I’m shocked
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:48 pm to
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Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:59 pm to
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, a thread about an article blaming retard fans for acting like whiny, spoiled children is not being well received on this board



I’m shocked



In keeping with the spirit and content of your comment, you can be one of our retarded fans.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33822 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:03 pm to
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Hollywood is more terrified of backlash from LGBT Twitter accounts for not being inclusive enough than they are getting hate from the fans of the existing material.
Guess they have to decide what's more important, pleasing that minority, or pleasing enough people to make their work profitable.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
6827 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:45 pm to
I just had a conversation with a coworker today about how I used to be really into movies. I used to watch every best pic oscar nomination year in/year out and would be genuinely excited for titles to release in theaters and on other media.

I don't give a shite anymore. I spend 90% of my time watching youtube now, and haven't gone to a theater in 6-7 years. These actors and film makers hate me, so why would I spend my hard earned money to support them. All the big actors I used to love, I can't stand now and every movie that I'm watching and enjoying now has some sort of shoehorned LGBT agenda tied into it that doesn't fit the plot AT ALL.

If they don't want to make movies for me anymore that's fine, but I'll find other ways to be entertained.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70817 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:46 pm to
Another example of how lost these people truly are. Bashing customers is as stupid as it gets for a business.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70817 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:49 pm to
He has zero self awareness
Posted by Crimson K
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Member since Dec 2018
7472 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Hollywood Is Battling Fans


That sounds like a really bad idea.
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