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Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:23 pm to
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Remember you were asking why Gandalf wants so badly to join the trip with the dwarves
i dont remember ever wondering this. i remember wondering why bilbo would ever make the decision to go on the trip. also was wondering why gandalf was so adamant in choosing bilbo but i think the last page of the book mentioned something about prophecy.

i knew that gandalf wanted smaug dead

eta: maybe it was someone on here
This post was edited on 1/9/13 at 10:26 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:28 pm to
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eta: maybe it was someone on here



My bad must be thinking of someone else.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:30 pm to
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My bad must be thinking of someone else.
frick it may have been me. i couldn't even remember there were 5 chapters after smaug dies.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2386 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:31 pm to
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The thing is we just saw the first 1/3 of the film really.


I think knowing this jacks with the pacing more than anything, and is one of the reasons I felt that the movie dragged in a major way.

I felt the first half was just snail slow, and since I knew it was only really act 1, any of the episodes on the journey could have been the "stopping point" as a result I was looking at my watch from about the 1 Hour mark on.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:36 pm to
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I felt the first half was just snail slow, and since I knew it was only really act 1, any of the episodes on the journey could have been the "stopping point" as a result I was looking at my watch from about the 1 Hour mark on.



I feel bad for you if you were that bored.
This post was edited on 1/9/13 at 10:52 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:38 pm to
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A mere ten years after the events of The Hobbit--in Earth terms, the equivalent of a blink of an eye (as a point of reference, it takes Aragon fifteen years after the events of The Lord of the Rings to even visit his Hobbit friends in the Shire)--Sauron declares himself openly in Mordor. So when The Atlantic opines that Jackson's The Hobbit should have been "slender and simple" like the book, indeed "innocent and intimate," and that any reference to the "necromancer"-cum-Sauron in The Hobbit is merely "Jackson cross-promoting his earlier films," don't listen to it for a moment--and don't be fooled by the legerdemain of that magazine's film critic, who drops esoteric references to the books as though he understands them well and has considered their scope and intersections in writing his review. Likewise, when CNN says that there's "so much less at stake" in The Hobbit, and that the movie should acknowledge this by avoiding any "dark forebodings of impending death and destruction," this too is a betrayal of Tolkien's literary legacy. This is not, as CNN would have it, a mere "caper." Nor is it, at The Washington Post and others absurdly posit, reminiscent--either visually, tonally, or otherwise--to "The Teletubbies." This is dark, mature subject matter involving a cast of characters still unaware enough about what's going on around them that they can still take time to laugh and (admittedly, on occasion) make bad jokes.


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All of this may seem like hapless nerd-kvetching, but consider: Would a film critic reviewing a Jane Austen adaptation be forgiven for exhibiting little knowledge of (and little willingness to embrace) the film's source material? How about Tolstoy? The reviews of The Hobbit don't just indulge, they indeed rely upon both the critics' and readers' ignorance of Tolkien's tale and what it was actually intended to be by the time of the novelist's death and (more to the point) Jackson's mid-nineties discovery of it as a possible cinematic blockbuster



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As the years go on, critics will return to the first entry in The Hobbit trilogy with a more favorable tone than they have approached it with thus far, and will be embarrassed for having rated it barely above George Lucas' thoroughly execrable Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (38% on Rotten Tomatoes). Here's hoping that reversal comes sooner rather than later.



This seems fitting for the title of this thread. This guy nails it on the head perfect.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:39 pm to
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I feel bad for you if you were that board.
movie/tv board?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:40 pm to
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CP3LSU25
did you write that article?
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:52 pm to
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movie/tv board?


it's getting late


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did you write that article.


To many big words in it for me to write that.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61491 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:54 pm to
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It looks fine for me. I don't see any problem. Thought the lighting with the Gollum sequence was pretty great.


I never said every scene was lit poorly. Perhaps I should have been more specific? The biggest problem I had with the lighting was in Bilbo's house, some bits with the Brown Wizard, and some of the scenes with the Orcs.

Most of that probably is b/c of the overuse of CG.
This post was edited on 1/9/13 at 10:59 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:21 pm to
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but then you see his face


You feel bad. He's had it for 900 years. He's ruined by it but at the same time it's all he has.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 3:36 am to
well thats what happens when you split one book into 3 movies it will take longer for character development
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