re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E13 “Saul Gone” SERIES FINALE Thread

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someone missed the Oakley/Saul conversation on the plane. Howard's wife could sue Kim for everything in civil court. Saul took full blame to protect her.

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Doesn't matter. She confessed everything in an affidavit. It can be used against her in civil court. She can counter with Saul's testimony at the hearing, but a judge or jury can still find against her. It's preponderance of the evidence. His testimony doesn't negate anything. It's simply placed on the other side of the balance scale, and a judge or jury can still place more weight on the affidavit and hold her liable.

But at the end of this major crime story wouldn’t it be weird if no one did serious jail time and face legal consequences?

Walt, Jesse, Gus, Mike, Nacho, Lalo, etc. all avoided serious jail time.

It is fitting the one guy that ends up facing a lot of time is the lawyer that always got everyone else off the hook.

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Sad it’s all over. The end of the Breaking Bad saga.

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They just set up an entire new show with Saul on the inside.

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My point is, it was executed poorly. The writers could have provided a scenario in which Saul confessing got Kim off the hook. They failed I’m this instance.

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He wasn't trying to get Kim off the hook. Kim accepted responsibility for her actions and for Saul to undercut that would take away her agency, which she would find unforgivable.

Saul never said that Kim's affidavit was BS. He said that whatever testimony he provided to the DA offscreen that somehow tied Kim in deeper to Hamlin's murder was BS. He simply wanted his appearance in court to pop up on Kim's radar so she would be there to see him truly accept responsibility for his actions.

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I got it wrong

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yep

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I was closer than most.

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No..not at all. It was actually almost the exact opposite of what you swore to.

And you talked a lot of useless shite. Should just change handles.. Cause you're not ham solo, you're now "that J+K=S cocksucker from the Movie Board" forever more.

-Of all the cameos the series has squeezed in the past ~5 episodes, they couldn't even squeeze in the ole pie sitter? The ole Squat Cobbler? The ole Boston Cream Splat? Simple Simon the arse Man? A brief appearance by Mr. Dutch Apple arse?


*Except image is in black and white because of the timeline.


And count me in amongst the fans of how the series ended. It could have been handled better, and I agree with some of the criticisms, but the Breaking Bad type intensity that was prevalent the past ~1.5 seasons wasn't going to be possible to keep up when Huell is the only super dangerous person from the series left alive.

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I was closer than most.

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You weren’t closer than shite.

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I got it wrong, I was closer than most.

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You essentially invaded Russia in the winter with your take. Then sheltered for 2 weeks when you knew you were totally wrong. Pretty weak character, man.

The finale was really great. It's gotten even better after letting it marinate. It was really the only way they could have ended the show. The only remaining threat was the law and someone had to do time for all these crimes.

In the end the writers didn't try to do something stupid like one up ozymandias, granite state, felina like so many people wanted.

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I got it wrong,

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Yes. Very.

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I was closer than most

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No. Not at all. Not even close actually. And that’s just in theory alone. Add into that how much of a condescending a-hole you’ve been and it takes to another level. To most rational people it was clear as day that you were wrong. But hey, thanks for ruining some good show discussions for years I guess.





Some other stuff I forgot to write earlier. Back to my “fan service” point…having Marie in the finale felt cheap and dumb. There’s really no reason she would have been there for that, and no reason for Saul to think she was. And she wasn’t even a beloved character. It just felt forced and out of place.

Also, was anybody else disappointed we never got a transition from black and white to color? There were numerous times where it would’ve worked great, if just never happened. shite, it could’ve even happened when he told the judge his name was McGill instead of Goodman. I was big time disappointed in that.

I still don’t like how the last few episodes went down. Mainly because it showed Gene getting far too sloppy for belief. Letting the cab idiots run schemes, teaching Marion how to use the internet…specifically YouTube, breaking back into the cancer guy’s house, etc. I know VG/PG said the other day that it was him “getting sloppy” or whatever, but I just don’t buy that he would do that. Or at least not be that egregiously stupid and careless. So part of this finale was because they sort of painted themselves into a corner with the last few episodes. But they salvaged a good ending from it anyway. That was more the point I was trying to make in my previous post I guess.

Also, I’m thinking about it more and maybe Saul changed his tune at the hearing because his play of offering info about Howard backfired on him during his testimony. Once they all laughed at the idea of him providing information that Kim already had provided, he decided to take it in another direction, get her name involved, and have her show up so he could essentially perform his mea culpa in front of her.

The little montage at the end with the cast thanking the fans was pretty cool.