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re: The Office question. How could Dunder Mifflin have been successful
Posted on 10/27/18 at 9:40 pm to David Wallace
Posted on 10/27/18 at 9:40 pm to David Wallace
It's a TV show.
Posted on 10/27/18 at 9:41 pm to biglego
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No one knows what Creed or Meredith did. Or Kelly.
Obviously you're a little slow because their jobs were the subjects of numerous episodes.
Posted on 10/27/18 at 9:44 pm to David Wallace
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A fourth-season episode, "Dunder Mifflin Infinity", said the company was founded in 1949 by Robert Dunder and Robert Mifflin, originally to sell brackets for use in construction. The fifth-season episode "Company Picnic" said that the co-founders met on a tour of Dartmouth College. U.S. News and World Report likens it to many real companies in its size range: "It is facing an increasingly competitive marketplace. Like many smaller players, it just can't compete with the low prices charged by big-box rivals like Staples, OfficeMax and Office Depot, and it seems to be constantly bleeding corporate customers that are focused on cutting costs themselves." The show's creators share this assessment—"It's basically a Staples, just not as big", says co-producer Kent Zbornak—as do some of those companies. "Since Dunder Mifflin could be considered among our competitors", says Chuck Rubin, an Office Depot executive, "I think Michael Scott is actually the perfect person to run their Scranton office."
The company was depicted as based in New York City, with branches in smaller Northeastern cities. Episodes are set in the Scranton branch, but other branches have been mentioned and seen. The now-closed Stamford, Connecticut, branch was seen when Jim Halpert (John Krasinski) transferred there during the first half of the third season. Another episode, "Branch Wars", gave viewers a brief glimpse of the Utica branch, one of several purportedly in upstate New York. Zbornak says that city was on the short list for where to base the show, with some of its writers having ties to Central New York, and that they always intended for at least a branch office to be located there, for reasons of phonetics. "Utica was just such a different-sounding name than Scranton," Zbornak says. But also, "we had done a little research and thought our kind of business could survive in Utica."
A Buffalo branch has been mentioned in several episodes, and a Rochester office was also mentioned in the episode titled "Lecture Circuit". The Dunder Mifflin website also lists a Yonkers branch. Albany is yet another mentioned New York location, which in a deleted scene in "Stress Relief" is revealed to have closed. It is also said that there are branches in other states, including: Akron, Ohio; Camden, New Jersey; and Nashua, New Hampshire. In "Company Picnic", it is announced that the Camden and Yonkers branches have closed, and that the Buffalo branch is about to close. In "Boys and Girls", a Pittsfield, Massachusetts branch was mentioned, until Jan shut it down when their warehouse workers unionized. The episode "Turf War" focuses on the closing of the Binghamton branch, and how reps from the Syracuse branch are competing with Scranton employees for Binghamton's old clients.
Business writer Megan Barnett has pointed out parallels between Dunder Mifflin and the real-life W.B. Mason paper company, based near Boston, in Brockton, Massachusetts. It is similarly regional in focus, serving corporate customers in New England and the Mid-Atlantic states. Like Dunder Mifflin, its original product line (rubber stamps) was something other than paper, and it faces stiff competition from national and international chains. It, too, has a branch office in Stamford, but Mason's has remained open. In 2009, it had an accounting scandal that resulted in a $545,000 payment to corporate customers, much as Dunder Mifflin had to deal with the arrest of Ryan Howard for fraud the year before.
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 10:07 pm to Dr RC
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Business writer Megan Barnett has pointed out parallels between Dunder Mifflin and the real-life W.B. Mason paper company, based near Boston
W.B. Mason can afford to advertise in Fenway Park. Maybe Dunder Mifflin should have looked to get a sign in...wherever it is that the Phillies play?
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:01 am to biglego
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No one knows what Creed or Meredith did
Creed did QC, or rather, didn't do QC, which is ideal for a mass consumption item with corporate customers. Maximizes sales and delivery. Creed kept Scranton profitable by not slowing their operational systems.
Meredith got discounts on supplies by having sex with vendors, also lowering the bottom line of the Scranton branch.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 9:41 am to The Godfather
quote:I think Meredith was in charge of purchasing, because she is the one that dealt with vendorsquote:
No one knows what Creed or Meredith did
Quality Control
Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:43 pm to biglego
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No one knows what Meredith did
She was putting out that poon for vendor discounts.
Other than Michael & Dwight, she was honestly the only one who gave a shite about the company.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 4:06 pm to The Godfather
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Quality Control
Quabity Dashowitz
Posted on 10/28/18 at 5:14 pm to David Wallace
Unfortunately, there is nothing you could have done. You were a mid-sized paper company. The first strike is that you were not large enough for superior buying power. By far a bigger reason, is that no one shops just for paper, and you were not in a position to diversify. Ryan had an idea to turn your website into a social media hub (ahead of his time), but again no one is going to visit the website of a paper supply company.
You truly need to be grateful that there were some good times, but times change and there was no way you could change with it.
You truly need to be grateful that there were some good times, but times change and there was no way you could change with it.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:43 pm to FightnBobLafollette
Jesus, even on this board you’re a sniveling little twat.
Obviously those characters had job titles, you dumb frick. We all know Creed was in charge of quality control. We all know Meredith sold her poon for discounts and we know Kelly did customer service. But what did those jobs really entail at a small paper selling office in Scranton? Did customer service really require a full time worker, or could it be combined with reception, or handled by the salesmen? Was there really enough work for three accountants? Did that small office really need a full time quality control guy? Bc it appears he didn’t do anything and it wasn’t a problem for years.
Your bitchiness is tiresome.
Obviously those characters had job titles, you dumb frick. We all know Creed was in charge of quality control. We all know Meredith sold her poon for discounts and we know Kelly did customer service. But what did those jobs really entail at a small paper selling office in Scranton? Did customer service really require a full time worker, or could it be combined with reception, or handled by the salesmen? Was there really enough work for three accountants? Did that small office really need a full time quality control guy? Bc it appears he didn’t do anything and it wasn’t a problem for years.
Your bitchiness is tiresome.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:46 pm to Parmen
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Obviously you're a little slow because their jobs were the subjects of numerous episodes.
Obviously you can’t read bc I already addressed a similar response yesterday.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:50 pm to Tactical1
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I always thought it was funny that Dunder Mifflin Scranton Branch looked like a bunch of bumbling idiots to corporate.
Dunder Mifflin corporate were portrayed as upscale educated individuals, yet they were the ones that tanked the company and Dunder Mifflin Scranton was the only successful thing about the whole company
Common theme in corporations. Out of touch board vs on the ground operation. Real companies go down for that very reason.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:34 am to biglego
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Does such a small office need a full time HR guy?
With a guy like Michael Scott around, yes! Realistically, his behavior would have him out of the door within a week in today's society, but short of firing him, he really needed an HR person attached to his hip.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:23 am to biglego
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Or Kelly
Kelly was customer service.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:28 am to SBvital
Dunder Mifflin was a front for the drug cartel. Not only was it an awesome way to launder money, but it was also used as a distributor of the product. Very easy to do in those cases of paper.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:35 am to biglego
Because of her negotiating skills Meredith was able to save the branch a ton of money on supplies, and she also got the staff Outback Steakhouse gift cards. She managed this while being a single mother and working on getting a Phd in Psychology.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:18 am to biglego
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Fire at least half the staff. There’s no reason why a paper selling branch with 4 or 5 salesmen needs 3 accountants. No one knows what Creed or Meredith did. Or Kelly. Does such a small office need a full time HR guy? Could the manager not also still be a salesman? A full time receptionist?
Also must take into account that in the episode where they have to fire someone, it is implied that everyone in the office makes atleast 50k w/ benefits per year, since thats how much room they needed to cut and everyone was a possible let go
So based off of your post, you could be looking at atleast 300k in wasted salary every year not including benefits (Which later also became an issue for the company).
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:35 am to wildtigercat93
I'm always amazed at how little they do actual, real work. Sure, we know from comments here and there that Jim and Dwight are good salesmen, and we've seen Michael be capable. But for the most part, very little work is actually done. So for a company that relies on sales to generate revenue, a lot of time seems to be wasted on absolutely nothing.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 2:04 pm to wildtigercat93
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Also must take into account that in the episode where they have to fire someone, it is implied that everyone in the office makes atleast 50k w/ benefits per year,
That’s a good catch, but the show wasn’t very consistent with what it made it seem like they made.
1. When Pam conned her way into the “office administrator” role, she said she was supposed to make something like $42k plus benefits (I can’t remember the exact number).
2. Dwight tells Jim that, in his ultimate fantasy, he’s in hell, co-managing a bed and breakfast with the devil, and his salary is $80k per year. If the minimum was $50k, I would expect that Dwight would be well above that, since he is consistently the top salesman in the company.
3. We know that Dunder Mifflin randomly underpays employees, because of Darryl’s reaction to Michael’s paystub.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 2:09 pm to uscpuke
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Unfortunately, there is nothing you could have done. You were a mid-sized paper company. The first strike is that you were not large enough for superior buying power. By far a bigger reason, is that no one shops just for paper, and you were not in a position to diversify. Ryan had an idea to turn your website into a social media hub (ahead of his time), but again no one is going to visit the website of a paper supply company.
You truly need to be grateful that there were some good times, but times change and there was no way you could change with it.
And that was part of the point of making Dunder Mifflin a paper company. It was supposed to be about pointless jobs in a company that is destined to fail in a dying business model, in a rust belt type city.
The Office was inconsistent with the size of Dunder Mifflin pretty often, but you basically just had to ignore it.
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