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Pandy Fackler
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re: The Irishman
What could've been an A minus is a D plus.

This movie was needlessly, pointlessly, obsessively and stupidly looooong, for no good reason at all and i mean none.

Twenty minutes or so after hoffa was killed, i'm asking myself, when's this shite gonna end and is this going to draw to any sort of point?

Well to answer the second part of that question, it didn't. It just ambled and clutzed around until it petered out.

After hoffa is killed just wait another 15 minutes or so and turn it off. Really, no shite. There's just nothing there.

Oh and another thing. Joe pesci was the best part of the movie by far. Al Pacino was miscast as jimmy hoffa and the cgi is ok, once you get used to it.

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jg8623
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is this going to draw to any sort of point?

Well to answer the second part of that question, it didn't. It just ambled and clutzed around until it petered out.


You honestly didn’t grasp the point they were trying to portray at the end?


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blowmeauburn
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Wow. What a piece of shite movie. Just finished. Wished I had that 3 hours back. That movie was terrible the whole way through. I can’t believe some of you would actually recommend this piece of shite to people.


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re: The Irishman
I liked it but Hoffa is such a jackass I had a hard time sympathizing with him or or Frank for feel bad about it. How dumb do you have to be to be like “nah, mob ain’t got shit” when warned over and over and over?


bamagreycoat
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Yea I gotta agree Drac. The mob gave Hoffa plenty of chances to walk away, cash in his huge pension, and enjoy his grandchildren. But money/power is a mf’er and it got him. Hoffa should have never loaned the mob the Teamsters money to begin with but hindsight being 20/20 and all that.


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Just finished it and I really like it...

laughed when I saw Scorsese brought back Lois, from Goodfellas, to play Hoffa's wife, Jo..


Godfather1
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Wasn’t expecting someone to name drop Baton Rouge in this


In reference to Edward Grady Partin, the Teamster boss of BR and a close associate of Hoffa.

I remember that guy. When I was in Jr. High (1979), the teachers in EBRP went on strike and he was all over the local news because the Teamsters were out on the picket lines with the teachers.


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Godfather1
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laughed when I saw Scorsese brought back Lois, from Goodfellas, to play Hoffa's wife, Jo..


I spotted actors from Goodfellas, Casino, Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire. All of which (except Sopranos) had a Scorsese connection.


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SlowFlowPro
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i thought it was a lot of meh with a few really good parts

for everyone complaining about it dragging on too long, i think the bigger issue is that it takes WAY too much time setting up the ultimate conflict

pesci crushed it

the family plot was a total waste of time. you literally could have cut all that down to Hoffa and his daughter, the scene after Hoffa dies, the bank teller scene, his other daughter explaining their childhood, and the part where he is talking to the nurse and it's established

there was way too much time setting up him becoming a gangster

obviously, as has been said, way too much time as old guys

if you want to go long, this should have been a 6-8 episode miniseries to REALLY get into all the storylines that didn't fully pay off

it was, frankly, boring. these movies require an energy and this had the energy of the principal old men masturbating about old age

*spoilers*


the part in Michigan when Russell changes the plan and there is the real drama of the flick was amazing. but it was like 30 minutes of a 200+ minute film. that's the only truly great part of the movie and it's just not worth the rest of it
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lsu480
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That was embarrassing scene between the baby kicks doing video game damage and the door exploding glass before they even hit the door


Quit the movie after that scene


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contraryman
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Was interesting from a historical (?) point of view. The Hoffa story is just intriguing.

Pesci was great. Pacino was very good. Deniro mailed it in. His serious look in a mob movie is just overplayed by now. Would have enjoyed having someone else play the younger versions.

It seems Scorsese and the rest of he four are trying to hang on and it just doesn’t work any longer. Until hey pass away I don’t think another director will try to tell a mob story without them blessing it. Almost like.....the mob.

I think they are has been a that think they could make anything and people would swoon over it. The legacy is being tarnished.


jg8623
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I think they are has been a that think they could make anything and people would swoon over it. The legacy is being tarnished.


I mean, Scorsese has been at the top of the game for 40+ years so you can’t really blame him if he were to think that way


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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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re: The Irishman
The movie reminded me of Chevy Chase's wife's critique of his novel in Funny Farm.

"In the first 20 pages I counted 3 flashbacks, one flashforward and I think on page 8 you have one flashsideways."


Monday
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re: The Irishman
I enjoyed the movie for what it is. I agree that it was too long. It took me a couple days to watch it all the way through.

I'm not really on board with Pacino being lauded for his portrayal of Hoffa. It just seemed like it was Pacino with a couple moments of Hoffa in it. Never really bought into it like I wanted to. I think DeNiro was not the best choice as the title character. I found it difficult to link him (obviously Italian) to being an "outsider Irishman".

Overall, I'd give it a 6.5/10. I normally watch movies with the thought that it's a movie and not supposed to be a historical doc.


Pandy Fackler
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I'm not really on board with Pacino being lauded for his portrayal of Hoffa.


I agree. Nothing more than a tone downed version of himself.

Maybe jack Nicholson reprising the role would've been better. I dunno, anyone other than Al Pacino.


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Lawyered
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re: The Irishman
Deniro could double as a white walker or a sequel to Polar express with Tom Hanks... it was very distracting


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re: The Irishman
fricking Silvio Dante crooning at Frank’s appreciation

It was actually a fun game to see how many actors from other gangster movies/shows you could spot. Scorsese put them in everywhere


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cfish140
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re: The Irishman
Just finished. Phenomenal. I thought it was a much deeper gangster film. More about De Niro’s sociopathy and remorselessness than it was a typical mob theme. His character was pretty weird, he seemed like such a nice and loyal man but had no problem killing, even his closest friend

The last 45 minutes made it IMO. De Niro growing old and still having no remorse and not being able to reconcile with his daughters was tough to watch. Also, him still not saying a word to the feds even though everybody that could be incriminated was already dead showed how deep his loyalty to the mob ran even though he was just now realizing how much that lifestyle ruined his life.

Scorsese always gave us the surface of the mob lifestyle. The killings, the crime, the partying, the women, the incarceration. But never really went further/deeper to how they coped or how they felt when it was all over. He did that in this one and I thought it was fricking perfect for his last run.

Also as someone else said, AWESOME Action Bronson cameo at the end. He was the fat white dude selling caskets for those who don’t know, he’s a rapper IRL


schatman
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re: The Irishman
If they have the technology, then why not just use a younger stunt double and put the "young DeNiro" face on him? I enjoyed it, but the grocery store scene was cringe. It looked like a 70 year old man fighting someone. They can't change the way theses guys move. Same with Samuel L Jackson in Capt. Marvel.


GreatLakesTiger24
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it was, frankly, boring. these movies require an energy and this had the energy of the principal old men masturbating about old age
my thought as well. think about all the iconic, high energy scenes in goodfellas... now think the Irishman...


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