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re: The Irishman
Posted on 11/28/19 at 5:47 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 11/28/19 at 5:47 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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The de-aging was a minor distraction.
It wasn’t perfect by any means, but I thought it was pretty legit considering that it’s a new tech they were using
Posted on 11/28/19 at 7:36 pm to scrooster
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Pesci knocks it outta the park.
I agree with this.
Posted on 11/28/19 at 8:14 pm to JJ27
Domenick Lombardozzi playing Fat Tony Salerno caught me off guard I didn't catch it until his second scene.
Lombardozzi played Herc on The Wire.
Lombardozzi played Herc on The Wire.
Posted on 11/28/19 at 10:19 pm to JJ27
Who is the "boy from Baton Rouge" mentioned during the Nashville court scene? Carlos Marcello?
Posted on 11/28/19 at 10:46 pm to jeff5891
quote:jeff5891, what is your goal here? To dissuade posts/posters?
You paused a movie to post about it on a forum?
You may not last long here with that attitude.
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:06 pm to Crow Pie
quote:They also skillfully juxtaposed how she did not particularly like Russell but fell in love with Jimmy and how she figured out her dad was involved in his disappearance. Chilling and heartbreaking at the same time. I loved the movie.
In the beginning they keep showing shots of her just staring at him which I found odd until later I realized she was figuring out the her dad wasn't exactly the "most morally fit" father in the neighborhood. Had to be hard to realize your dad was an enforcer in the mob.
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:21 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Depressing to watch the grocer scene knowing what it would’ve looked like in an 80’s or 90’s Scorsese movie.
I mean, sonny working over Carlo had some pretty terrible moments
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:28 pm to Fishwater
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:36 pm to SPEEDY
Very good movie. The length didn't bother me at all. I thought all the acting was very well done. The de-aging took a little time to get used to.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:37 pm to LSUalum2000
Just finished.
Incredible.
Incredible.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 10:13 pm to JJ27
It's Scorcese, DeNiro, Pacino, and Pesci...of course it's going to be much better than your average movie. That said (spoilers).....
* On advice of a podcast I listen to, I watched some documentaries on Hoffa before watching the movie so that I'd be familiar with the characters going into it. Unfortunately, the "experts" in these documentaries, to a man, said Sheeran's claims and story were absolute bullshite, citing several inconsistencies in his story, logistical improbability, lack of DNA evidence (despite testing), and financial drive to sell the book. That Scorcese wrote about an apparently discredited account of what happened, was kind of deflating to watch.
* The de-aging was awful. Of course, the supermarket scene. DeNiro's character, especially, was really poorly done, even with the contacts. I would have almost preferred two actors playing the Sheeran's role to account for flashbacks.
* They really glossed over a lot of the stuff that got Hoffa in trouble with the mafia, including Jo cheating on him with mafia members. They mentioned the involvement of the Detroit mafia Giacalone family but didn't really develop those characters, at all, nor what that family meant to Hoffa.
*****Loved the Action Bronson cameo. He was actually perfect for that part.
*****Pesci stole the show. Would've loved to see more of he and Keitel together.
* On advice of a podcast I listen to, I watched some documentaries on Hoffa before watching the movie so that I'd be familiar with the characters going into it. Unfortunately, the "experts" in these documentaries, to a man, said Sheeran's claims and story were absolute bullshite, citing several inconsistencies in his story, logistical improbability, lack of DNA evidence (despite testing), and financial drive to sell the book. That Scorcese wrote about an apparently discredited account of what happened, was kind of deflating to watch.
* The de-aging was awful. Of course, the supermarket scene. DeNiro's character, especially, was really poorly done, even with the contacts. I would have almost preferred two actors playing the Sheeran's role to account for flashbacks.
* They really glossed over a lot of the stuff that got Hoffa in trouble with the mafia, including Jo cheating on him with mafia members. They mentioned the involvement of the Detroit mafia Giacalone family but didn't really develop those characters, at all, nor what that family meant to Hoffa.
*****Loved the Action Bronson cameo. He was actually perfect for that part.
*****Pesci stole the show. Would've loved to see more of he and Keitel together.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 10:15 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Pesci and Pacino were great
DeNiro meh
DeNiro meh
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:24 pm to Cosmo
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Pesci and Pacino were great
DeNiro meh
This will be an unpopular opinion but I think that's the way Martin writes DeNiro into his gangster movies.
He's not bad at all. He's always good but his character is not meant to stand out. I feel Goodfellas and Casino were all driven by Pesci and a few other supporting roles. I think that's what makes the movies great. Everything meshes together.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:41 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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* They really glossed over a lot of the stuff that got Hoffa in trouble with the mafia, including Jo cheating on him with mafia members. They mentioned the involvement of the Detroit mafia Giacalone family but didn't really develop those characters, at all, nor what that family meant to Hoffa.
The movie was already 3 and a half hours. Of course they’re gonna miss a ton of stuff with a story this big over that long of a time period
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:58 pm to JJ27
Joe Pesci stole the show. Phenomenal.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 12:39 am to JakeFromStateFarm
Just finished and I have to agree Pesci made this movie. This will likely be his last role so at least he can go out on a high note. I'm sure Deniro and Pacino will keep doing whatever straight to video garbage is offered to them.
Deniro just wasn't believable as a young guy. Even with the de aging he looked at least 50. Still a solid movie overall. The length didn't bother me but it takes away from the rewatchability factor.
Deniro just wasn't believable as a young guy. Even with the de aging he looked at least 50. Still a solid movie overall. The length didn't bother me but it takes away from the rewatchability factor.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 2:15 am to AlbertMeansWell
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This will be an unpopular opinion but I think that's the way Martin writes DeNiro into his gangster movies.
He's not bad at all. He's always good but his character is not meant to stand out. I feel Goodfellas and Casino were all driven by Pesci and a few other supporting roles. I think that's what makes the movies great. Everything meshes together.
Interesting point. It was Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, King of Comedy, and Cape Fear where DeNiro's character really stood out. I see what you're saying but while DeNiro isn't really the lead in Goodfellas or even Mean Streets, he's brilliant in those movies not just "not bad at all". And the post you're responding to has nothing to do with DeNiro's onscreen performance.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 2:22 am
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:58 am to Fenwick86
I'm glad Scorsese didn't cut this movie down cus this will probably be the last great movie all 3 of them do esp together (De Niro and Pesci) and no true movie lover should be mad at the length just not made for the theater but ii'm glad they sacrificed that for the extra content we received. Pesci and Pacino should be nominated for their parts, it's crazy that the lead character kinda plays 3rd fiddle but I understand now after the story, I'm young so I didn't know much about Hoffa so this was a history lesson as well, one thing I will say is I had such a hard time keeping up with characters names at the end of it it was hard to remember who was who but i'll rewatch it soon and focus on them more. Scorsese are one of a kind in that they grew up with this stuff and these type of movies won't be the same without them they like give it that stamp of authenticity for me at least where it just makes the movie so much more enjoyable to me knowing these guys grew up around this stuff.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:34 am to HTX_LSU
Not sure if your post is sarcasm or irony.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 12:31 pm to JJ27
It was very good not great. Should have spent more time developing the relationship of Frank and Jimmy but it did cover a lot. Best performances, Russel B., Sally Bugs, Tony Pro, and Carrie B. (find her hot all the way back to Sopranos).
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