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re: The first trailer for ‘CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD’ has been released.

Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by CDUBTX
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:53 pm to
Yea that’s a no for me. The captain is looking a little different in this one.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 2:50 pm to
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Maybe for a very small group, but it gets pretty ridiculous when any criticism/concern is automatically perceived as racism


There is a lot of criticism for this that can be legitimate.

There is all the reshoots

There is a lack of faith in Marvel due to recent failures

There is the fact that it feels like you need to watch a lot of different Disney+ stuff to even fully understand the movie.

But him not having super powers? bullshite. Several people have pointed out all the other non powered supers. People want to have all these excuses for the others but refuse to give an inch for Sam Wilson.

Batman did a training montage doing CrossFit and now he's supposed to go toe to toe with Superman. Oh but he had a special suit! Well Sam has a suit from Wakanda and the shield. BUT that's lame! He didn't make the suit himself. Yeah and neither did Batman. Remember Fox? The guy who built all his shite?

shite Hawkeye was getting excused away. Hawkeye got more leeway with zero speciality suit and only a bow and arrow to excuse him going against Loki, Ultron, and Thanos.

So why do people refuse to give Sam Wilson any room to prove he can be Captain America?

Anthony Mackie is a very good actor. Boomtown even giving him credit. But apparently that doesn't extend to giving him a chance to prove himself on the big screen.

Falcon and Winter Soldier suffered from a horrible villain that tanked the show. The ending speech was really bad. But people ignore the fact that the show has to be massively rewrote since originally the Flag Smashers were going to release a virus that kills millions. On top of this the writers had to rewrite without being able to meet and had to navigate all of this through zoom calls.

I am going to go out on a limb and say the writers for the movie are supposed to be better than the writers for their TV shows.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:18 pm to
The only way to save Captain America: Brave New World:

This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 3:46 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:03 pm to
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shite Hawkeye was getting excused away. Hawkeye got more leeway with zero speciality suit and only a bow and arrow to excuse him going against Loki, Ultron, and Thanos.


Excused away how? I don't recall Hawkeye ever going one-on-one with a superpowered villain. Same with Black Widow. Were those two ever presented as being on the same level as Captain America?

I mean sure, if we're going to have Sam Wilson's Captain America doing the ground-level grunt work of fighting the big bad's soldiers like Hawkeye and Black Widow, then that makes sense...but that's not really what anyone wants from Captain America, right?
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:06 pm to
Antman beat Kang the Conqueror. Who cares if Falcon fights Red Hulk? His weakness is anger so all he has to do is fly around pestering him.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:07 pm to
Trailer actually did give me hope. But it's only a trailer. That TV show completely turned me off from the character. They made him political of course.

It's possible Disney has learned (likely why they had the reshoots) but I doubt it. I still keep hope.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:09 pm to
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Who cares if Falcon fights Red Hulk? His weakness is anger so all he has to do is fly around pestering him.His weakness is anger so all he has to do is fly around pestering him.



This is what Marvel super hero's have come to. Such low expectations now.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 4:10 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:35 pm to
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That TV show completely turned me off from the character. They made him political of course.


It was awful. I had such high expectations.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 5:17 pm to
Legitimate question here. Do you actually remember the show or just the "Do better" speech?

They made him political.

He is called Captain America. He has the flag on the chest. How do you expect to keep politics out of that. What you mean to say is he wasn't political the way you wanted.

And before anyone tries to claim Steve Rodgers stayed out of politics, Civil War was political. The whole point was politicians trying to regulate super heroes. But that was ok because people are fine with certain politics. Heaven forbid race, gender, or inequality comes up though. We can't have discussions about that. That's the wrong politics.

So again, did you watch the show? I did. Isaiah Bradley (old black man) thinks Sam shouldn't be Captain America because of the treatment blacks have had in America. They showed examples during the show that reenforces this message. And than Sam Wilson says "frick that, I'm doing my own thing. I will make things better myself" and dons the shield. He pushed back on the idea that blacks should hate America.

So yeah Sam Wilson can be my Captain America any day of the week, powers or no powers.
Posted by Crimson K
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 6:52 pm to
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And before anyone tries to claim Steve Rodgers stayed out of politics, Civil War was political


Bruh, this is certainly a take, but it is a really dumb one. A political storyline like the Sokovia Accords is completely fictional. The FAWS storyline was a BAD attempt at race baiting lefty views of modern US politics. They are not remotely the same.

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Heaven forbid race, gender, or inequality comes up though. We can't have discussions about that. That's the wrong politics


I think most people from left and right don’t care to have fictional characters parroting views from the other side. And es, I remember the show. I waste several hours in disbelief at what a shite show it was. Do you realize how stupid the bank loan storyline was? Do you remember how the government took the shield to give it to the goofy blonde dude, supporting the very narrative you are regurgitating? The baddies literally wanted to redistribute stuff that wasn’t theirs. The final image of Sam berating an elected official with a vague call at doing better made no sense whatsoever. The blip and return of literally billions of people (maybe trillions if you think galaxy wide) was quite literally an unmanageable situation. I’d argue Irin Man’s insistence on doing the unsnap the way he did was sociopathic.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:39 pm to
He's not worth responding to man.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17587 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:07 pm to
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but that's not really what anyone wants from Captain America, right


Cap's 2 movies was against Red Skull, and them Winter Soldier. 2 Street level villains. Nobody really complained about those movies at all.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17587 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:09 pm to
I don't the FAWS was particularly a great show. But I don't see how it was political in a way if having to deal with modern politics at all.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26630 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:28 pm to
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He has a vibraniun suit from Wakanda


No, he doesn't. Only the wings are vibranium. Maybe they'll make his whole suit vibranium in this movie, but it's currently only his wings.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18329 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:38 pm to
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Cap's 2 movies was against Red Skull, and them Winter Soldier. 2 Street level villains


Red Skull wasnt a street level villain. He is legit
Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:41 am to
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The only way to save Captain America: Brave New World


Which chicks, lame or otherwise, did you clock in that trailer?

Memes as a crutch aren't very funny, regardless of the clout you think they bring you.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18329 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 3:46 am to
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Which chicks, lame or otherwise, did you clock in that trailer?



Oh ye have little faith. There is a real chance that the movie is actually not about the title character at all, and its actually about the plight of a strong minority woman. Trailers be damned.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 3:47 am
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 5:04 am to
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Which chicks, lame or otherwise, did you clock in that trailer?

Memes as a crutch aren't very funny, regardless of the clout you think they bring you.


you aren't very bright if you take that meme literally for this situation.

This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 5:10 am
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7469 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:38 am to
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Which chicks, lame or otherwise, did you clock in that trailer? Memes as a crutch aren't very funny, regardless of the clout you think they bring you


Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14812 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:46 am to
How nervous are the writers that Disney is going to require a fifth rewrite to take out the attempted assassination plot?
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