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re: The first trailer for ‘CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD’ has been released.

Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Wait, do we want to have a real physics discussion in superhero movies about humans flying in suits or even in spaceships? A suit or ship doesn't magically negative what rapid acceleration and deceleration do to the human body. Without "magic" technology like inertial dampers many of our human heroes would be dead after the first battle, no matter what suit they have or what vehicle they are in.
then why have Rodgers taken a super serum in the first place when a regular human can do all those things....lol
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
2627 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:57 pm to
It is and I've seen Liv Tyler in the cast as Betty Rose which should be really cool.

The biggest gripe I've seen that is legitimate to me is that the plot feels like they are doing Civil War if it didn't have the other Avengers with shades of Winter Soldier tossed in. I love call backs but not if the entire movie is just rehashed plots from other movies frankensteined together through hundreds of reshoots.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17587 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:55 pm to
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Agree unfortunately. How is he going to fight hulk as a regular man? Are they going to give him some type of tech to beat him?


Zero chance it's going to be a real fight. I don't know who the villain is of this movie, but there's a 0% chance it's Red Hulk. Chances are, Red Hulk will Hulk out. Sam will throw the shield and try to reason him to calm down. Other than that, he will fly around trying to avoid death. Until he can get Ross to take control again.

The serum is pretty irrelevant here. Cap couldn't do shite to Hulk either.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17587 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:02 pm to
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Did he take the serum in Falcon and Winter Soldier? If not, I still dont see how he can be Cap with nothing super about him


The key is his suit. He has a vibraniun suit from Wakanda. In addition, he can fly. Not being a super soldier is his weakness, but he'll bridge the gap by his suit along with the jetpack.

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then the super sonic shot... his body would crumble

Obviously, but this is a comic book universe. The laws of physics are always being broken.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:25 pm to
No superpowers. Pretty lame.

As of now, I'll likely wait and watch online for free.


but, I am PUMPED for Deadpool and Wolverine.

This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:31 pm to
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Zero chance it's going to be a real fight. I don't know who the villain is of this movie, but there's a 0% chance it's Red Hulk. Chances are, Red Hulk will Hulk out. Sam will throw the shield and try to reason him to calm down. Other than that, he will fly around trying to avoid death. Until he can get Ross to take control again.



I know who he can call to help!

Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:47 pm to
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Cap couldn't do shite to Hulk either.

But the hulk wouldn’t kill cap.
A tap from hulk would kill Falcon.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35399 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:28 pm to
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But the hulk wouldn’t kill cap.
A tap from hulk would kill Falcon.


The Hulk would squish Captain America - either one, doesn't matter.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:39 pm to
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The Hulk would squish Captain America - either one, doesn't matter.


Dude, Thanos made Hulk his bitch and Cap stood toe to toe with thanos and didn’t die.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:25 pm to
man, wasn't that long ago, in the Falcon and Winter Soldier, Falcon couldn't even get a loan bc he was black.

Now he's hanging out the white house. Crazy.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65846 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:30 pm to
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That would certainly be quite the twist if they had the balls to do it


I mean he literally pulls a secret service members gun and shoots at the president before jumping out a window.

Given Marvel's track record, it's certainly possible all of that is ahead fake, but I have to take it at face value until shown otherwise.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27581 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:38 pm to
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all I see is a regular man


Son, he is a he's a specially trained USAF Pararescue veteran. Hardly a "regular" man.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27581 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:43 pm to
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Tony with his crazy suit couldn't really take hulk.


Tony's hulkbuster took down hulk. It's like you didn't watch the movie
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:44 pm to
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Great, So he's going to wear a suit for his powers (at least Iron man made his own). I pray this is not how it goes.

Looks like hes going to be hiding behind his shield the whole movie. To keep from dying

Man, what an awesome story line thats going to be. Tiny guy behind the shield. Good thing he isnt bigger, because parts might get shot off
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:50 pm to
Are you joking (sarcasm)?? he's a specially trained USAF Pararescue veteran.!! All those guys can compete with hulk or other super hero's!

Hell, Mackie didn't even have to try a bulk up or really get in shape for this role.

Hell, It was pointless for Steve Rogers to take the serum. He could have just gone to USAF Pararescue training!!

At this point, I'm thinking we didn't even need the Avengers. Could have just used the "USAF Pararescue" team. We don't need "Super Humans" i.e. Super Heroes.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 10:59 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46368 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:30 pm to
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please be the Leader from back in the Hulk Movie with Norton - would be a hell of a tie in



It's the same one, played by Tim Blake Nelson. That's been known for a while now, though I guess with all the reshoots, it's been recently re-confirmed. Quote from Nelson:

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Very excited about it. I'm headed to Atlanta tomorrow to continue working on that. It's been very exciting to bring back a character from 16 years ago and imagine how he has aged with me and how that has manifested. The Marvel team has come up with a really interesting explanation—revelation, I should say, as to what he's been up to for 16 years and why.


LINK
Posted by NEWMANIUM
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
165 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:05 am to
Why is the Hulk red?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47162 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:21 am to
Ross: You're not Steve Rogers


Sam Wilson: You're right. I'm not.


Damn straight. Make Sam Wilson Falcon Again!

Looks decent, but Sam Elliot (79) still seems like a better choice for Ross than Harrison Ford (82). Unless he had zero interest or isn't able to anymore.

Mackie is a fine actor and Falcon is a good side character, but he's not a cinematic lead. Without the Serum or the shield, for all the heart Sam Wilson has, he's just not THE guy. He's less than Hawkeye. As is, he's a terrivble choice to replace Steve Rogers.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47162 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:23 am to
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Why is the Hulk red?



There is another...
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17587 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:33 am to
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Dude, Thanos made Hulk his bitch and Cap stood toe to toe with thanos and didn’t die.


Didn't die, yet. Cap had Mjonir by his side helping him fight. Yet he was about to be dying very soon if it wasn't for "on your left".

If it was Cap v Thanos straight up, Cap would have been a puddle in the mud.
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