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re: 'The Fantastic Four’ Casting News: Ralph Ineson is Galactus
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:48 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:48 am to SammyTiger
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Aren't most Chileans white
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most are mostly white.
They mostly come in white, mostly.
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 1:03 am to Freauxzen
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So, to be clear, you don't think a female or non-white character can be a A lister hero?
No they just mostly aren’t.
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So the only solution to make a good female or non-white character into a "A list" hero is to take a hero that is A-list and most likely male and white, (again, everyone would probably cheer for a Stanfield Surfer, he's a great actor), and take over that character's history, background, position, story, narrative? That's the only way to bring in diversity?
short of make 500 movies so D every background hero gets movie or show it pretty much is.
and obviously the XMen lineup has been diverse for a while.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:59 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:03 am to RLDSC FAN
Well. Critial Drinker just got his next video content.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:14 am to SammyTiger
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No they just mostly aren’t.
Even if this were true, that is completely acceptable and does not need "fixing."
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short of make 500 movies so D every background hero gets movie or show it pretty much is.
Race and gender swapping is a failure business model.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:28 am to imjustafatkid
It's incredible to me that this thread is nine pages and you guys (most of you) still refuse to acknowledge that the Garner and Stanfield roles are not the same
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:31 am to tiggerthetooth
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1. No one and I mean NO ONE is "freaking out". That's a stupid characterization for people simply commenting on a movie. No one's day is ruined by this.
2. It's not that it's a woman casting on its own, you have tonlook at the casting in context of political trends, Hollywood cultural trends, and Marvel movie trends.
A few women casting for roles that have no history....no problem. Taking every male role and IP in sight and gender swapping and writing plots centered on common left wing tropes is simply the new formula and it's not interesting with pathetic pandering.
You are objectively low IQ or willingly ignorant if you haven't noticed what is taking place.
This is a lot of typing for something you seem misinformed about. This is not a gender swapped role. It's a female role in the comics that will be played by a female in the movie.
We're still getting the Norrin Radd Surfer.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 9:32 am
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:33 am to imjustafatkid
I love when board moderates will start bleating, "But, but...that character has been gay/female/black since the 90s!" Yes, the comic book houses were on the leading edge of progressivism but no one noticed because no one read comic books back then. Coincidentally, the 90s also saw readership of many mainstream titles crater.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:41 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:90's comics had their problems but lack of readership was far from them.
Yes, the comic book houses were on the leading edge of progressivism but no one noticed because no one read comic books back then.
quote:Including the ones centered around white males. There was no anti-woke pushback. You had a misguided focus on crappy artists becoming the leaders of the art-over-writing movement, the glut of "big events" and overprinted "collectable" issues, and (in general) a collector's market driving the publishers.
Coincidentally, the 90s also saw readership of many mainstream titles crater.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:46 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Yes, the comic book houses were on the leading edge of progressivism but no one noticed because no one read comic books back then. Coincidentally, the 90s also saw readership of many mainstream titles crater.
early 90s and later 90s were nearly polar opposites regarding the comic book industry. comics were HUGE in the early to mid 90s.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:54 am to CP3forMVP
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It's incredible to me that this thread is nine pages and you guys (most of you) still refuse to acknowledge that the Garner and Stanfield roles are not the same
i dont understand what you are saying or implying here.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:56 am to Sam Quint
that they could both be cast as surfers.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:00 am to SammyTiger
oh ok. but to date though, they have just cast a female Surfer correct?
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:22 am to Sam Quint
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oh ok. but to date though, they have just cast a female Surfer correct?
So now we are assuming the gender of this silver surger???
genderphobes!!!
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:51 am to SammyTiger
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surfers
Explain?
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:56 am to SoFla Tideroller
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I love when board moderates will start bleating, "But, but...that character has been gay/female/black since the 90s!" Yes, the comic book houses were on the leading edge of progressivism but no one noticed because no one read comic books back then. Coincidentally, the 90s also saw readership of many mainstream titles crater.
They love to pretend this isn't intentionally being done to subvert the culture, even though everyone knows that's exactly what is happening.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:03 am to imjustafatkid
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They love to pretend this isn't intentionally being done to subvert the culture, even though everyone knows that's exactly what is happening.
my pet peeve is when they use some obscure event from some random comic storyline in 1983 or whatever to justify the subversion. like some random story about how an established character went through a blackhole and came out in some parallel dimension as a black gender non-binary purple haired turtle creature, and then they use that to justify why the character is no longer a white male. "shows how much YOU know about comics, there is precedent for this and they are remaining faithful to the comicbook!" as if 99.99% of the time the character hasnt been a normal white male hero archetype. so tiresome.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:06 am to Esquire
here's a perfect example of this from page 1. 99.9% of people (and 100% of casual fans) think of Silver Surfer as a male, but because this female surfer was in the comics in 1968, it totally justifies removing the male surfer and just having the female.
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Blame Stan Lee for introducing her character in 1968.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 11:07 am
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:10 am to imjustafatkid
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They love to pretend this isn't intentionally being done to subvert the culture, even though everyone knows that's exactly what is happening.
what culture? Which culture?
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:12 am to Sam Quint
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my pet peeve is when they use some obscure event from some random comic storyline in 1983 or whatever to justify the subversion. like some random story about how an established character went through a blackhole and came out in some parallel dimension as a black gender non-binary purple haired turtle creature, and then they use that to justify why the character is no longer a white male. "shows how much YOU know about comics, there is precedent for this and they are remaining faithful to the comicbook!" as if 99.99% of the time the character hasnt been a normal white male hero archetype. so tiresome.
Yep. And honestly, most comic book fans would be totally fine with one-off "elsewolrds" (yes I know that's a DC Comics term) things like this, but that isn't what they've been doing so far. Maybe this will be the first time.
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