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re: the end of an era
Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:34 am to SquatchDawg
Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:34 am to SquatchDawg
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The appeal used to be late night shows were about the only place you could see celebrity interviews. Now we’re over saturated with celebrities and they’re all over the place. Plus we learned that the less we hear of actors from our favorite movies the better.
Also the new celebrities for the younger generation aren't actors. They are YouTubers.
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:46 am to dickkellog
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it's official the era of the late night talk show is over
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coberts show lost 40 million last year off a budget of 100 million dollars. he's the best of the bunch
I think I've found the problem. If Colbert is the "best of the bunch," then someone has failed miserably.
I think there is still a spot for late night talk shows, but networks have to dial back the expectations (and the costs). And ESPECIALLY the politics. Just put someone funny and likable at the forefront and let them be normal. Doesn't have to be someone like Colbert who is consumed with political idiocy, or Fallon who is the fakest person ever and fawns all over every person on his show. Just make them normal and accessible to America, and people will tune in. Just not in droves like they used to because there are now a hundred more avenues for people to consume that kind of entertainment and content. The paradigm shifted a while back, so stop trying to desperately hold onto something that ran its course a decade or two ago. So understand where you stand and cater to that.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:56 am to dickkellog
Many many moons ago in the 80’s, I remember our whole dorm gathering in the lobby to watch Letterman. Good times
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 7:58 am
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:31 am to SquatchDawg
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The appeal used to be late night shows were about the only place you could see celebrity interviews. Now we’re over saturated with celebrities and they’re all over the place. Plus we learned that the less we hear of actors from our favorite movies the better. Carson was the GOAT and Letterman took the same concept but mixed it with really funny bits. It’s been going downhill ever since.
This.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:35 am to Chromdome35
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Many many moons ago in the 80’s, I remember our whole dorm gathering in the lobby to watch Letterman. Good times
Yep. I used to watch Letterman religiously. Always funny and the music acts were good too.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:46 am to Brosef Stalin
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Explain the popularity of Gutfeld then.
Are you serious? You really think Gutfield is the same type of show as CBS/NBC/ABC late night shows? Yo think Gutfield has some large viewership numbers for people under 50?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:50 am to Brosef Stalin
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Explain the popularity of Gutfeld then.
Boomers leaving Fox News on when they fall asleep
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:04 pm to dickkellog
Their TDS doomed them... and we're all better for its demise.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:07 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Something has to be on that time slot. Unless they're planning to go back to signing off the air.
Syndicated reruns and infomercisls
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:22 pm to dickkellog
The time is now ripe for them to bring back "The Chevy Chase Show."
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:25 pm to blueboy
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The only one in the time slot
He's not in the timeslot, he's earlier.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 6:29 pm to RollTide1987
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Older people eventually pass on into the next world.
And middle age people become older.
What exactly is your point?
Posted on 8/2/25 at 6:47 pm to dickkellog
It’s impressive that any of the late night format shows lasted this long.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 6:57 pm to STLDawg
My parents love Gutfield. Every time I watch it it’s so cringe.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:05 pm to VoxDawg
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Their TDS doomed them... and we're all better for its demise
Not supported by the demographic data posted in this thread but you go on and hoist that self validation.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:06 pm to dickkellog
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gutfeld had 3.29 million viewers 238k in the 18-49 demo against a next to nothing production cost he has 8 total staffers. gutfeld isn't a tradition talk show nor is it in a traditional talk show time slot.
The production cost was insane. I read he had around 200 staffers, including like 20 writers.
I think the roles he played on the Daily Show and his own show on Comedy Central needed great writing - and it had it. That kind of staff (especially the writing), and his enormous salary on his present show just couldn't be sustained for the long haul.
Plus, people are just tired of the silliness of the extreme left - and he pushed it. Kimmel does the same thing, I'll be surprised if he last as well. It's ok to have opinions, but why offend or belittle those who don't agree with you and risk losing viewership (that determines you and your staff's pay)?
BTW, I think The Tonight Show is fine. Fallon has views, but doesn't offend - and seems to have fun. Remember how mad folks were that he "humanized" Trump?
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:07 pm to Volvagia
I legit have no idea who Gutfeld is.
Is he political?
ETA: Getting downvoted for asking a question tells me all I need to know
Is he political?
ETA: Getting downvoted for asking a question tells me all I need to know
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:14 pm to Broski
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Is he political?
Yeah, but he leans into the crazy side of the left, the part that everyone is tired of. He is NOT a Christian conservative at all - and throws out beeped F-bombs, penis jokes, and is for legalized weed. He's pretty damn funny if you are into making fun of the absolute wackiness of the extreme left.
Dude was the editor of Stuff (and my favorite) Maxim and in his reign it was the best men's mag on the planet. Back then, if you wanted to read all kinds of manly guy stuff, with hot babes on every page, you get a subscription.
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:21 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Something has to be on that time slot. Unless they're planning to go back to signing off the air.
Seinfeld.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:22 pm to Broski
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I legit have no idea who Gutfeld is.
Is he political?
I didn’t either till this thread.
But after Googling him, yes.
And he has the same pattern that only an extreme minority of a valued demographic watches him. So you can’t point TDS as the reason for the others.
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