re: 'The Acolyte' Megathread: The Grand Finale is now streaming

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what it's doing to Star Wars as a franchise is a disaster.

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she wasn't responsible for this was she?

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you already know what review bombing is ... behind the scenes, we all know what it is

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A bunch of people who hate the show giving a bad review.

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No, we need to be honest about what is going on, and that is that we are caught in the middle of a culture war that the majority of us don’t want.

The “review bombing” is done by a fringe element who is just as unhinged and delusional as Headland about trying to promote their agenda. It’s not actually regular people who have seen the show and simply didn’t like it. I can’t think of the posters name who does it, but there is a regular here on the M/TV who watches some YouTuber give his opinion on something and then comes here and parrots it without ever watching it to form his own opinion.

I watched episodes 1-6 of the show yesterday. My opinion is that the show was just so-so. I wouldn’t call it good, but I wouldn’t say it was hot garbage and I hated it either. My criticism of the show involves characters acting in ways that made no sense and other plot holes. I was also disappointed that they underused the Jedi Wookiee.

Even reading all the rants about how “woke” it was going in, while I acknowledged the casting and story choices, it didn’t “bother” me. More importantly, none of those contributed to the problems with the show.

As I’ve said before, maybe in this thread even, I think Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie outside of the original trilogy - and from a casting standpoint it was about as woke as you can get. The difference is that it was well done.

But to wrap it up - as long as folks fail to acknowledge and call out the review bombers who “hate the movie without seeing it because it’s woke” it’s going to provide in a built in excuse for Kennedy and Disney to keep putting out crap content.

Oh man you owned the nerds

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Oh man you owned the nerds

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Nothing posted is as bad as the "wait your turn" combat of episode 5

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Cat turd, dog turd, still a turd.

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yeah but these people are acting like star wars was some perfect art form until disney bought it.

there were ZERO good star wars films released for 35 years until disney bought it and released Rogue One

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it’s definitely not reviewing

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They are reviewing part of the property

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there were ZERO good star wars films released for 35 years until disney bought it and released Rogue One

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News Flash: Other than the fan service Vader scene at the very end, Rogue One is a slow, wooden, and poorly written movie too. People liked it because they were desperate for a decent Star Wars movie. But on its technical details, it falls flat.

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They are reviewing part of the property

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Oh interviews are part of the property?

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Oh interviews are part of the property?

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Interviews about the show and the characters?

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Sargon of Akkad with a concise reason as to why this show and other Disney Star Wars shows are just not good.

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This and someone else's comments earlier about the characters and their actions constantly contradicting themselves are probably the best explanations of why The Acolyte is so mediocre.

It reminds me a lot of the Rings of Power, where the plot is just a meandering mess, the characters constantly contradict themselves, and the shell of the show is based on the IP, but ends up not being consistent with the source material resulting in a show that's similar in names and places only. I watched the entire season of Rings of Power out of my love of Tolkien's books, and ended up hate watching the entirety of the season in the hopes that it would just get good.

Like I just saw that the Horizon Zero Dawn series is getting canned by Netflix. I know absolutely nothing about the games other than it's some red-headed chick that goes around hunting giant robot dinosaurs in what I imagine is some dystopian future. Just going off of that, I would think they could make a really entertaining show... but if I was tasked with making the series, I wouldn't even know where to start or how to write a story that fits in to the lore of the games since I've never played them. One of my friends was actually a producer on the game, so I would have someone that could give me more details on the game, it's characters, setting, lore, etc., but I would never truly "get" it without playing the games myself. The result of my work would just be a semblance of the game without any real connection to it, which would probably be a shitty product.

That's the gist of what I get about the star wars, and to a lesser extent Marvel, these days. They're hiring a bunch of showrunners and writers who have such a limited understanding of the source material that the shows/movies don't really capture the essence of the IP. So when they have interviews with the cast and creatives where they get basic details of the original stories wrong, and they talk about purposefully hiring writers who have never even seen the source material, and how they want to insert their own personal stories into an IP that already has an established lore and narrative, it just all falls flat.

I think that's why House of the Dragon succeeds where The Acolyte fails. They're building a show that's being faithful to the source material even if it strays off the path here and there, whereas the new Star Wars shows/movies are being created by people who have zero interest in working within the material and themes that's already been laid out for them. Star Wars has just become a something that's just Star Wars in name only, and it doesn't help that the writers they've hired can't even string together a coherent narrative or write characters with a semblance of logic or development. It's just baffling that somehow this is the end result of something that cost over $100 million to make.