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re: 'The Acolyte' Megathread: The Grand Finale is now streaming

Posted on 7/3/24 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 4:17 pm to
New interview with Headland

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Over the course of our lengthy conversation, Headland spoke about the ship's connections to Kylo Ren (Adam Driver) and Rey (Daisy Ridley), whether the Power of Two might be a Force Dyad, her intentions behind introducing this dynamic and how it plays with gender norms, how the Jedi of The Acolyte match up with the Jedi of the Prequel Trilogy, the surprising connections to Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, whether the planet Qimir lives on is Ahch-To, and the intentional and thoughtful symbolism, allusions, and parallels at play throughout Episode 6. There was a lot to unpack, and we tried our best to hit all the most pressing questions that fans may have had once the credits rolled. Read on for the full transcript


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Posted by WestSideTiger
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 4:32 pm to
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you already know what review bombing is ... behind the scenes, we all know what it is

A bunch of people who hate the show giving a bad review.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 4:51 pm to
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yeah he had the franchise firing on all cylinders when he sold it.


I'll be honest and say what no one wants to say... the prequels were trash and a wasted effort. Lucas directed both Anakin actors miserably and the writing for him and Padme was clunky and lame.

And don't even get me started on that Sithlord Jar-Jar.


But all that wasn't as bad as what Disney has done to the franchise.

I was there... in the before times. When Star Wars was at its peak glory... 'tis now but a faded shadow of its former self.
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Read on for the full transcript


Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 4:56 pm to
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I'll be honest and say what no one wants to say... the prequels were trash and a wasted effort.


Lol what??
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 4:57 pm to
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I'll be honest and say what no one wants to say


The prequels committed one of the cardinal sins of entertainment - they were excruciatingly boring. I was 13 when the OT came out; right in the wheelhouse of its target audience. So when the prequels came out and my kids wanted to see them I was looking forward to seeing them. I fell asleep in both of the first two and couldn't tell you a single plot point from either. They must have been bad because neither of my boys wanted to see the third.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
47155 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:22 pm to
Trade negotiations & Galactic Senate intrigue not Star Wars enough for you?



Tourist!
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:25 pm to
i think you’re going to have to make a real argument why Emo Chosen One Anakin is better than Mary Sue Rey.

Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:35 pm to
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i think you’re going to have to make a real argument why Emo Chosen One Anakin is better than Mary Sue Rey.

They can both suck, but at least with Anakin, Lucas had a plan, a shitty plan or a plan he was incapable of realizing.
Not the case with Disney.
No plan and their winging it sucked other Jay’s balls.
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
4945 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:38 pm to
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Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon


What connections? One of these is a masterpiece of filmmaking. The other is a HS film project.
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:39 pm to
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think you’re going to have to make a real argument why Emo Chosen One Anakin is better than Mary Sue Rey.


Clone Wars cleared that up. If the prequels had that level of dialogue and character building, Haydens work wouldn’t have been shat on outside of his incredible saber stunt work.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 6:20 pm to
I liked Rey until she became Mary Sue Rey. She was fine as a plucky, adventurous new female character.

But Darth Vader already had been established. 3 movies full of dark lord goodness. As I posted above, George botched young Ani as well as awkward older Anakin. I always assumed Hayden was a shite actor, but that wasn't at all the case. It's just that George has problems directing characters that aren't cardboard cutout props.

From how Obi Wan talked about Anakin in the OT, I imagined a more confident, almost cocky but likeable character. Think a young Poe Dameron. That would make his fall to the Dark Side all that more tragic. But what we got instead was a sniveling, whiney brat who lusted after a girl out of league who he really didn't have much in common with at all.

I can see George writing a bit of himself in Anakin, to be honest.


*And as for Kylo Ren, that was just bad writing all around. There was zero need for him to turn dark, and it made no sense that Luke, who knowingly went into a trap to save his friends and then turned himself in to Vader so he could save him would so casually try to murder his nephew over a bad dream.
This post was edited on 7/4/24 at 5:34 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:28 pm to
True, Dooku wasn't fleshed out enough in the movies.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 8:36 pm to
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Exclusive Data Suggests The Acolyte Is A Star Wars Success Story Despite The Backlash


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Screen Rant has spoken exclusively to Reelgood, a third-party analytics firm who examiine viewing trends across all US streaming platforms, based on the monitoring of 20 million monthly viewing decisions. They've looked through their data to see how The Acolyte compares to other live-action Disney+ Star Wars TV shows. The results are surprising, and indicate The Acolyte may be a lot more popular than many believe.

Reelgood compared the live-action Star Wars Disney+ TV shows, looking at the first 14 days since The Acolyte's release. They found that The Acolyte is the second most successful in terms of streaming and engagement, outperforming the average top 100 TV show by a factor of 6. It is only surpassed by Obi-Wan Kenobi, which outperformed the average top 100 TV show by a factor of 8.



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Posted by WestSideTiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:06 pm to
Not sure your point in posting that. Anything Star Wars related will get views. I don’t think it’s very good but I still watch. It’s certainly not getting as many views as it could have. And no doubt the engagement is off the charts. But is that a positive? Even if this data is accurate I’m not sure I’d make the jump to call it “popular”.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60092 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:18 pm to
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Not sure your point in posting that.


Because this is a thread about the acolyte
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35943 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:11 pm to
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I'd even say Darth Maul wasn't pure bad. He may have done bad things, but i dont think he was purely bad like Sidious was


Meh, Maul had no idea who Anakin was at the time and tried to run what was just a lone, helpless boy down with his speeder.

Maul was bad.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47155 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 5:37 am to

It's not review bombing. It's reviewing a bomb.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30499 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:09 am to
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It's not review bombing. It's reviewing a bomb.


While a nice turn of phrase the numbered reviews are almost a perfect representation of review bombing. On IMDB it has 56.6% 1 out of 10. Anyone rating The Acolyte a 1 either has an agenda or a remarkably narrow experience with TV series. The 7.7% that voted it a 10 are equally as agenda-driven.

The Acolyte is not great and not even good (though it has had some good moments) but unless the scale went into the negative numbers it is not a 1. I have no real issue with people rating it a 1 in an attempt to make a point but suggesting it isn't review bombing is clearly intellectually disingenuous.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79430 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:55 am to
it’s always funny to
me when the guy who’s whole thing is going I to show threads for shows he doesn’t watch and arguing with people who do watch them that they suck also denies review bombing exists.
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