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re: Star Trek SNW: The Puppet Episode Finally Dropped. What a hot mess

Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:52 am to
Posted by DesScorp
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:52 am to
I haven’t watched a Star Trek show since I gave up on Enterprise midway through the first season. By all accounts, I haven’t missed anything.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:23 pm to
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to when Martians were on Mars and earth had dinosaurs



Which only ever existed in Star Trek canon when this episode aired.



FFS
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:54 pm to
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The only thing I could come up with that didn’t suck in this episode was the female alien captain had a sexy voice


She looked and sounded very familiar.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 1:53 pm to


Rachael Harris. Comedic actress best known for the Hangover, but you’ve seen her everywhere.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
47423 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 2:29 pm to
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Funny how the same pattern keeps repeating. Doctor Who, Star Wars, the Witcher, Lord of the Rings, Wheel of Time, Willow, and even more current day Marvel projects like Daredevil.

All objectively very popular IPs, but purposely neutered and subverted for the modern day audience. You can’t convince me this isn’t done with intent. They want to make their money off of existing properties while at the same time destroying those same properties.


Every single time.


To quote IowaHawk:

quote:

Target a respected institution, kill & clean it, wear it as a skin suit, while demanding respect
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:55 pm to
65m years ago. Doesn't matter.
TNG already set up we had a precursor race we came from.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:58 pm to

The issue was intelligent life on Mars. That's new to the Trek lore.

Q showed Piccard that ancient primordial ooze here on Earth is where WE came from.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 8:45 am to
Humans, klingons, Vulcan and Romulans have a common ancestor.

The Progenitor.



Also ST cannon needs to be changed in places.
We didn't have civil wars in the 90s over Eugenics.
We didn't have WW3 start two years ago.

We didn't launch Voyager 5 in the 90s.

Things are going to be changed along the way.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 8:48 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:29 am to
Funny how the “future“ of Star Trek has already come and gone & is now in our rear view. Just like Back to the Future. Terminator, etc.…

But with regards to Star Trek, - strange new worlds, these idiot writers are just paving over stuff they should have already known. Inventing fake canon, which in the past should not have existed.

It really is lazy to recon an advance Martian intelligent life form / civilization, that we would’ve clearly discovered, eventually.

But we have morons in science fiction who think fires can burn in space or there’s space sonar .
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 9:32 am
Posted by Wraytex
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:18 pm to

Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
11308 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:05 am to
Has anyone watched the new episode which is a progresses ‘in real time’ episode?

Just wondering if it gets the season back on track or just using a storytelling gimmick to cover up going no where.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:08 am to
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Has anyone watched the new episode which is a progresses ‘in real time’ episode?

Just wondering if it gets the season back on track or just using a storytelling gimmick to cover up going no where.
Yes, and yes it does. Old time Star Trek, plus it brings back a very early character from the original series. I'll bump the main discussion thread later. Not as great as the first episode of the season, but very good Star Trek.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:08 pm to
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I can tell you never watched Discovery
Literally zero Star Trek fans watched Discovery

Well. . .unless it was for content
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:58 pm to
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This is probably the worst Star Trek Episode I've ever watched.


I haven't seen it yet, but if that is true that it's worse than Spock's Brain, worse than Beverly fricks A Ghost, worse than Quark Gets A Sex Change, worse than Janeway Turns Into A Salamander, and worse than Enterprise's Finale Is Just TNG Filler... then I might just have to watch it to see how bad it could be.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79939 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 3:17 pm to
My wife and I tried to get through Discovery. We like most of the characters and might watch the Pike season again, but the Klingon stuff was just too much and it fell off a cliff after


















SPOILER






















they went to the future.
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 3:18 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
51118 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 3:22 pm to
Know her mostly from Lucifer.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 3:24 pm to
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worse than Beverly fricks A Ghost,


Now now, let's not be too hasty.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 3:52 pm to
The Burn was the worst,
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