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Star Trek: Picard Season 1 * Spoiler Thread*

Posted on 1/31/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by Donkus
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 11:28 am
As an unabashed Trekkie, I love how there are small throwbacks to TNG episodes. I also like how we're slowly getting to meet each prominent character. Might not be the Picard we know from TNG, but it still feels genuine to me.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 1:46 pm to
It feels like TNG even though it isn't.

Picard and Data playing poker on the Enterprise D gave me the feels "I don't want the game to end."

I'm glad that the action scenes are minimal so far. If the show was just Data's daughter doing ninja flips every episode, it wouldn't have the same impact.

I like how they're focusing on the Romulans. They were supposed to be the Big Bad in TNG, but were replaced by The Borg.
Posted by GeneralLee
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:18 pm to
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As an unabashed Trekkie


If you are an unabashed Trekkie, you should hate what Star Trek: Picard is, at least through the first two episodes. Terrible editing, trying to cover way too many concepts and storylines in each episodes, SJW startrek (all women are in authority roles while most men are shown as feckless and weak, use of profanity, etc. Sure they can drop some easter eggs in the episodes, but that shouldn't redeem it. It's garbage plain and simple.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:44 pm to
You sound miserable. You can’t handle women in authority? Kind of pathetic tbh
Posted by GeneralLee
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:49 pm to
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You can’t handle women in authority?


I'm fine with it, but you have to mix things in for realism. Not just have 100% women in power positions and all men being subordinate. Gets statistically impossible at somepoint without planned bias. Like the Gillette ad bashing man, but all 40+ instances of "bad" male behavior were by white men.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 11:07 pm to
You're the prototypical knee-jerk reactionist who thinks everything is an SJW plot.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 5:44 am to
This board is getting unreadable as it's inundated with political talking points from people who clearly haven't watched the subject of a given thread.
Posted by Boss
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 6:02 am to
Agreed. Talk about the show or get the frick out.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:46 pm to
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If you are an unabashed Trekkie, you should hate what Star Trek: Picard is, at least through the first two episodes.

For frick's sake.
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Terrible editing
You're high.
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trying to cover way too many concepts and storylines in each episodes,
bullshite.
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SJW startrek (all women are in authority roles while most men are shown as feckless and weak, use of profanity, etc.
LOL. Most of the women in authority are villains.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:53 pm to
So far I'm pleasantly surprised. Data wanting a daughter is right from Next Gen. Good and bad Romulans are straight out of their first appearance in the original series.

So far, Picard's female caretaker is my favorite new character.

Lots of Next Gen goodness, but so far it's a little below the Pike episodes of Discovery. And since Discovery started so slowly, this bodes extremely well for this series.

Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:05 pm to
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You're the prototypical knee-jerk reactionist who thinks everything is an SJW plot.




Except that Stewart did say the whole thing is a bit of a middle finger to Trump and Brexit.

Not that that is inherently SJW, but most SJW things tend to like to shite on Trump and Brexit.


I do think people like to find made up messages that don’t exist (Knives Out, Get Out) but when the people involved tell us what they’re aiming for (tLJ, Watchmen) it removes all doubt.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Except that Stewart did say the whole thing is a bit of a middle finger to Trump and Brexit.
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In “Picard,” the Federation — a union of planets bonded by shared democratic values — has taken an isolationist turn. The new show, Stewart says, “was me responding to the world of Brexit and Trump and feeling, ‘Why hasn’t the Federation changed? Why hasn’t Starfleet changed?’ Maybe they’re not as reliable and trustworthy as we all thought.”
That's giving them the middle finger? The rest of the interview has his views on Brexit and Trump, but as far as the show goes, they have isolationism as the plot. Not much of a middle finger.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:39 pm to
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Not much of a middle finger.




His feelings are hurt.
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:36 pm to
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His feelings are hurt.



Not at all. I’m not butthurt in the least. I’m just saying that it definitely has political themes. Not overly SJW ones but political ones.
Posted by Donkus
Shreveport
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:40 am to
The reason I started this thread was to escape the first episode thread that got hijacked by politics. Dammit if it didn't happen again.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:02 am to
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The reason I started this thread was to escape the first episode thread that got hijacked by politics. Dammit if it didn't happen again.



95% chance the people who keep injecting the political crap into these threads haven't watched 1 second of the actual show before posting.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:14 am to
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The reason I started this thread was to escape the first episode thread that got hijacked by politics. Dammit if it didn't happen again.


I don't care if Star Trek is invoking politics. Trek has always weaved current issues of the day into its tapestry of story telling. My problem is with the canon and PICARD is trying to clean things as best as they can.

I'm still not happy with the destruction of Romulus but I'll run with it.

I don't like how they Federation has suddenly become the "bad guys". Roddenberry's future had us looking forward to those days and now it's the same with more technology. Roddenbery's Federation would not have abandoned the Romulans on there evacuation. The lady interviewing Picard refereed to the Romulans as one of the Federations oldest enemy...Really? last time we saw any significant Federation-Romulan story was the Romulans fighting side by side in the Dominion War and Picard helping the Romulans from a Reman Coups...Sounds like a blooming friendship.

They are trying to "fix" the Klingon makeup travesty. When they were doing the Picard interview I noticed they used a photo of him with Worf from "Sins of the Father" and I have to think that was done on purpose to show the accepted Klingon look.

With all of my bitching out of the way it was a well told story. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out. I'm hoping it will end with "Q" snapping his fingers like Thanos and fixing everything...LOL
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:35 am to
Data's daughter is hot.

Posted by Michael T. Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:43 am to
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I don't like how they Federation has suddenly become the "bad guys". Roddenberry's future had us looking forward to those days and now it's the same with more technology. Roddenbery's Federation would not have abandoned the Romulans on there evacuation. The lady interviewing Picard refereed to the Romulans as one of the Federations oldest enemy...Really? last time we saw any significant Federation-Romulan story was the Romulans fighting side by side in the Dominion War and Picard helping the Romulans from a Reman Coups...Sounds like a blooming friendship.


This. The Federation as portrayed in the OS and TNG was one that had reached an ideal. The new Federation is not what Gene envisioned at all. Even with that utopia, the older shows found ways to make it work and still take on political issues.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:50 am to
The first episode is free on YouTube. Just watched it.

Liked it but have a lot of questions about the Mars attack and why the Federation would be so cold to the idea of Romulan rescue.
Though if RSE is about the size and strength of the federation, couldn't they have built their own escape shuttles?
What did the klingons do?
Did they offer help
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