re: Snowpiercer season 2 *AND 3* discussion thread

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I just hope we can get Connelly back. She was such an important piece of the show, and it's not the same without her. It's not as good.

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It's really a strange choice only 20 episodes in. There's the one part I get - they said from the outset this show is set in the year preceding the movie, in the same universe. Ultimately, all of these characters need to be gone at some point.

But they are making it increasingly difficult to maintain that link. In the movie, I remember the aquarium train - now, that's gone.

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I had hoped they had a 5 season plan to wrap this up and segue into the movie. It seems like that's becoming increasingly more difficult now. Of course, I never read the comic from which it's based off, so that should probably factor in as well.

I’m done with this.... maybe I’ll come back when I can stream several seasons at a time

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There's the one part I get - they said from the outset this show is set in the year preceding the movie, in the same universe. Ultimately, all of these characters need to be gone at some point.

But they are making it increasingly difficult to maintain that link. In the movie, I remember the aquarium train - now, that's gone.

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I don't know if I remembered or realized that this was set a year before the movie. That's interesting.

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Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I had hoped they had a 5 season plan to wrap this up and segue into the movie. It seems like that's becoming increasingly more difficult now. Of course, I never read the comic from which it's based off, so that should probably factor in as well.

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Man, honestly I would have never thought it would get to five seasons. I figured it would be a show that I enjoyed, that nobody else did, and would get cancelled after a season or two. So I'm glad it's still going for at least a third season.

I will say this...after rewatching the movie over the weekend, I forgot just how terribly stupid the ending of it was. I actually like the movie, but the end is laughably bad.

I don't even mean that aspect of it. But blowing the train to pieces and essentially killing off the entirety of humanity seems dumb. And then the two kids on their own in the frozen wilderness, with a fricking polar bear right over there, was more stupid.

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The EP said the only reason the research station plotline developed was because they couldn't get Jennifer Connelly for the full season

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That's so weird to me. Like you commit to a show and then leave after one season? Why commit in the first place? It does nothing for the show, and can actually paint the writers into a corner like we are seeing.

And I assume it is flashbacks. It actually would be pretty cheap if she were still alive because of how much they hyped it up that she was dead. They made it seem like she literally couldn't survive, so any explanation of her surviving (including mine from earlier in the thread) won't make much sense.

Actually, what I read was a different interview with the EP on a site called TVLine. Full quote on losing Connelly and the link below:

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TVLINE | Talk about the plan to stretch out Melanie’s fate for the second half of the season. Was that about you losing Jennifer Connelly at a certain point, but you wanted to keep the character “around” a bit longer?
Basically, yes. Jennifer has been such a great partner in this and also has a very busy professional life…. [Showrunner] Graeme [Manson] knew very early on, so he and the writing team came up with this really great idea of the research station and then the “time collision” that took us to the end of the season. Having the ticking clock of “We need to make sure we have some place to be at a certain time!” is always valuable, and with a very limiting Wilford always wondering what is happening. When that creative decision came up early in the season break, it was exciting to hear. It’s always fun to have a strong emotional reaction to a creative pitch.

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This interview also makes it sound more like Melanie is dead and Connelly will likely be appearing in flashbacks:

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TVLINE | You did kind of leave the door open. I mean, Melanie wasn’t found dead. She could have been discovered and rescued by some group of nomads we didn’t know existed….
She could; that might be “jumping the shark” a bit based on everything we expressed thus far, but….

TVLINE | She is done for, we shouldn’t be speculating?
I don’t know if I’m going on record that she is “done for,” but I don’t know that she is alive.

TVLINE | Have viewers seen the last of Jennifer Connelly?
We are pleased that Jennifer will join us for Season 3.

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Just finished. Guess Jennifer Connelly was too costly to keep, though I’m seeing some reports she’ll be back in season 3.

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-I believe thats the 1st appearance of the nutri-bug bars from the movie

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I was happy to see those.

I don't see the show can logically have any continuity with the movie, but logic doesn't have to apply in Hollywood.

Looks like season 3 just wrapped and I just read an article they renewed for season 4 ahead of season 3 airing. I'm not sure where they are headed, but I really hope having things locked down helps some of the writing get better.

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after I try to remember how S2 ended.

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Truth.
Same for:
Yellowstone
Ozark
Peaky
Miss Maizel
Last Kingdom
Outlander