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re: Snowpiercer season 2 *AND 3* discussion thread
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:51 pm to 9Fiddy
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:51 pm to 9Fiddy
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Wait, Icy Bob is now a book reader with empathy???
I was completely taken aback by his humanity in this episode. It quite literally took me out of the show for a few minutes after seeing him in Josie's panic attack scene.
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:59 pm to CocomoLSU
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I’ll jump back in once I’m caught up.
Better hurry. Like the train this thread never stops moving.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:43 pm to PsychTiger
Okay I caught last week’s episode. What a giant waste of an episode. Almost literally nothing happened except that they tried to show us that Icy Bob is human after all. Giant waste of time. I couldn’t care less about all these little side relationships or what kinds of kinks Wilford is into. That whole sequence was just weird and didn’t matter at all.
Also don’t care about Tess (think that’s her name; the blonde lesbian).
There’s no reason they should’ve done the “launch the balloon and wait for Melanie to upload data” while everybody watches. That was a dumb move. If she never uploads anything then people know it was a waste and she’s incapacitated. They could’ve launched the balloon and told people Mel was uploading data and the same effect would’ve happened (tallying everyone around a potential future).
This week’s episode was a little better. Pike offing the snitch dude was a good move.
It’s weird that Josie is so involved now. She went from dead to a major player. Just seems weird to not have killed her off and done this with someone else. Also weird that I can’t tell who Andre is with at this point, her or Zarah.
Humanizing Icy Bob is a strange move. But I’m interested.
This whore Audrey trying to sloppily sabotage Wilford is so weird and kinda stupid. And I love how W notices that she tried a key in that lock on the audio box. How the hell is that possible?
I’m actually kinda confused as to what happened with the breachmen. So BA’s men killed SP’s men right? Seems a little quick. I know W is eventually gonna make a play for SP but this seems rushed and not well planned.
I love how SP is a train but has slums. Like when they built it were they just like “hey let’s add some slums here and here, so the seedy poor people can have somewhere to hang out”? Seems like an awful waste of space for literally the last bastion of humanity.
ETA: I’ll respond to other posts in the morning. Just wanted to get my thoughts in here while they were fresh.
Also don’t care about Tess (think that’s her name; the blonde lesbian).
There’s no reason they should’ve done the “launch the balloon and wait for Melanie to upload data” while everybody watches. That was a dumb move. If she never uploads anything then people know it was a waste and she’s incapacitated. They could’ve launched the balloon and told people Mel was uploading data and the same effect would’ve happened (tallying everyone around a potential future).
This week’s episode was a little better. Pike offing the snitch dude was a good move.
It’s weird that Josie is so involved now. She went from dead to a major player. Just seems weird to not have killed her off and done this with someone else. Also weird that I can’t tell who Andre is with at this point, her or Zarah.
Humanizing Icy Bob is a strange move. But I’m interested.
This whore Audrey trying to sloppily sabotage Wilford is so weird and kinda stupid. And I love how W notices that she tried a key in that lock on the audio box. How the hell is that possible?
I’m actually kinda confused as to what happened with the breachmen. So BA’s men killed SP’s men right? Seems a little quick. I know W is eventually gonna make a play for SP but this seems rushed and not well planned.
I love how SP is a train but has slums. Like when they built it were they just like “hey let’s add some slums here and here, so the seedy poor people can have somewhere to hang out”? Seems like an awful waste of space for literally the last bastion of humanity.
ETA: I’ll respond to other posts in the morning. Just wanted to get my thoughts in here while they were fresh.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:59 am to Uncle Stu
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Snowpiercer is starting to lose steam. The show is really starting to drag, there's only so much inter-train subterfuge the audience can put up with
Each week I loathe Audrey just a little bit more. Her character is so offputting and nobody should wear that much clownpaint. I really hope she is killed off.
Agree with that. I will stick with the show, but last night I found myself picking up my phone here and there because the show was boring me to death.
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Safe to assume Wilford is intercepting Josie's messages before they cross the border?
I don't think so just yet. I do think he has spies obviously though.
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I'm guessing for budgetary reasons, Jennifer Connelly is too expensive to appear in every episode.
I don't know, but they really need to get her back on the train. She's one of the best characters on the show, and carries it in a lot of ways. So throwing her at some random weather station for half a season doesn't seem like the smartest idea.
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ETA: preacher is now the odds on candidate to be the one leading the pro-W cabal
Have we seen him before? Because that scene was just weird and felt randomly inserted into the show for no reason. All of a sudden Tess just goes to box with this preacher?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:03 am to Uncle Stu
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I think they wanted us all to know a taillie is always a taillie, cannibalism and whatnot. Even the evolved taillie Layton cant shake that primal tribalism they all adopted to survive all these years.
That's definitely what they did with Pike. He said that he was targeted for killing and being a cannibal, but Layton vouched for him and saved his life or whatever. And he promised himself he'd never kill again (randomly). But then Layton just convinces him in about five minutes to do it.
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I forgot to add, I think the show wants us to think it was the taillies getting revenge on 3-fingers, but we never really saw their faces. So, it was W, via preacherman, who killed the Breachmen to incite a civil war on SP.
ergo, Preacherman and his fellow Pro-Dubs crew is doing all the attacks
I agree with that. He's trying to a) create turmoil on SP to make himself look better, and b) thin out some of SP's numbers because he knows he doesn't have the numbers to take over SP right now.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:34 am to CocomoLSU
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I can’t tell who Andre is with at this point, her or Zarah.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:39 am to CocomoLSU
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This whore Audrey trying to sloppily sabotage Wilford is so weird and kinda stupid. And I love how W notices that she tried a key in that lock on the audio box. How the hell is that possible?
It wasn't a lock, it was a screw that kept it closed and he noticed it had been partially unscrewed.
So, while he was trying to screw her box she was trying to unscrew his box.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:22 am to CocomoLSU
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Also don’t care about Tess
Is it Bess or Tess?? She's still more interesting than Audrey. However her rabid motivation to "SOLVE THE CRIME!!!" is more than a bit overstated. She's been milling around on that train for 7 years, and now, all of a sudden passionate rage over 3-finger Sally? Her newfound intense desire to do the right thing feels forced (because it is)
We'd be more invested in her arc if she was a bit more cerebral in her approach to solving the mystery, but all she wants to do is crack skulls. That's why Laytons story last season was pretty good, he was more Sherlock Holmes than Baretta
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Have we seen him before? Because that scene was just weird and felt randomly inserted into the show for no reason. All of a sudden Tess just goes to box with this preacher?
yes, we saw him briefly this season. But only to establish that he was the spiritual leader on the train, and made a point to state he welcomed all "faiths" in his chapel, even those that pray to Wilford.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:33 am to PsychTiger
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It wasn't a lock, it was a screw that kept it closed and he noticed it had been partially unscrewed.
That makes more sense then.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:37 am to Uncle Stu
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Is it Bess or Tess?? She's still more interesting than Audrey. However her rabid motivation to "SOLVE THE CRIME!!!" is more than a bit overstated. She's been milling around on that train for 7 years, and now, all of a sudden passionate rage over 3-finger Sally? Her newfound intense desire to do the right thing feels forced (because it is)
No idea, I can't ever remember her name.
But I agree, she's so desperate to solve shite immediately that she is fricking up. And she is being sloppy as well.
I agree that Layton last season was great, because he was trying to use his skills to solve shite, and it made him feel normal again.
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yes, we saw him briefly this season. But only to establish that he was the spiritual leader on the train, and made a point to state he welcomed all "faiths" in his chapel, even those that pray to Wilford.
Right, I meant before this season. I know he was in (( think) E1. But he's thrown in now and may be heavily involved. I did think it was funny that Tess was punching him and kicking his arse while they were boxing. Girl power yay.
ETA: You're right, it is Bess.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 9:38 am
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:38 am to CocomoLSU
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It wasn't a lock, it was a screw that kept it closed and he noticed it had been partially unscrewed.
Speaking of, I think that's why she stayed on Big Alice. I know many people think that she just couldnt leave Wilford and return to SP. But I think when she heard those alarms going off, she knew immediately just by his reaction, W was up to no good.
She failed to access the red box, she know Wilford is doing something behind the scenes.....she convinces herself she cant leave, her work is not done
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:46 am to Uncle Stu
She is best advised to avoid the bathtub.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:43 am to PsychTiger
Well we know she’s gonna die since W noticed she had fricked with the screw. So he knows she’s actively trying to sabotage him.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:36 am to CocomoLSU
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Well we know she’s gonna die since W noticed she had fricked with the screw. So he knows she’s actively trying to sabotage him.
Probably so. And we’ll probably have to watch a 40 minute scene where being naked in a tub with W makes her want to slit her wrists.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 3:17 pm to 9Fiddy
Based on his actions so far, I’d say Ned Stark has lost his head.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:44 pm to PsychTiger
Speaking of losing your head, Melanie is certifiable.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:09 am to PsychTiger
I guess it was good to fill that gap as to the events that led to Melanie absconding with Snowpiercer sans Wilford. It played out almost exactly as I had envisioned it, based on clues from previous episodes.
Melanie quickly realized Wilford is an evil maniacal power-hungry sociopath, and takes humanity's life raft out from under him.
The thermal pocket directly under the weather station, is........convenient. What luck!
I'm going to say Melanie did not miss the train, that was part of her hallucination. But then, how much of that episode was real, and how much was fruit loops? We were to assume that when she was doing science, eating rats and fixing stuff, that was real. Only the part where she's talking to phantoms were the hallucinations.
But now, what if most of the episode was all in her head? What if she didn't actually get that tower back up and running? And, she's actually in some unconscious delusion?
The preview for next week had no shots of her, I'm worried it's going to be another train drama episode
Melanie quickly realized Wilford is an evil maniacal power-hungry sociopath, and takes humanity's life raft out from under him.
The thermal pocket directly under the weather station, is........convenient. What luck!
I'm going to say Melanie did not miss the train, that was part of her hallucination. But then, how much of that episode was real, and how much was fruit loops? We were to assume that when she was doing science, eating rats and fixing stuff, that was real. Only the part where she's talking to phantoms were the hallucinations.
But now, what if most of the episode was all in her head? What if she didn't actually get that tower back up and running? And, she's actually in some unconscious delusion?
The preview for next week had no shots of her, I'm worried it's going to be another train drama episode
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:34 am to Uncle Stu
It did explain why she didn't respond to that one weather balloon going up, so it may be real up to at least the point the tower collapsed.
If the rest is real, full out war on the train could explain why they didn't stop for Melanie on their way back.
If the rest is real, full out war on the train could explain why they didn't stop for Melanie on their way back.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 12:28 pm to PsychTiger
The only thing is if her missing the train is real, then she’s dead. They already established stopping the train is a no no and backing up could be even more problematic. And she won’t make it another 30 days on rats.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:32 pm to 9Fiddy
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The only thing is if her missing the train is real, then she’s dead.
exactly
So, she had to ride a snowmobile just to get to the weather station. And all of sudden, she can "feel" the train rattling the floorboards, get her shite packed and sprint all the way back to the tracks on foot, only to just barely catch the tail end??
She lept from the train at night, only to arrive at the station in daylight, after she hoofed it for the last leg. For her to run that far, that fast would break the laws of physics, even in this alternate universe
Nah, not buying it
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