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re: Severance Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers)
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:51 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:51 pm to drizztiger
I had a different reading of the scene because pseudo intellectuals aren’t quick to admit they don’t know something. Being surprised that WWI wasn’t called that at first had a different feeling to me. That’s something you learn in like 8th grade and these adults had never heard of it.
It’s either Truman Show and all the characters have limited information about the “real world,” or it’s actually farther into the future than we think and some basic knowledge has been lost.
It’s either Truman Show and all the characters have limited information about the “real world,” or it’s actually farther into the future than we think and some basic knowledge has been lost.
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:00 pm to Stonehog
I can completely understand that thought and you easily could be right about Truman Show-esque type alternative. I believe I have proposed that they are living in some sort of alternate reality, regardless of how it's defined right now.
The whole setting for the dinnerless dinner party scene and then subsequently Ricken's book reading at end of S1, these people are certainly not grounded in any reality we would know. From saving the baby to don't blame the baby, some weird people.
The whole setting for the dinnerless dinner party scene and then subsequently Ricken's book reading at end of S1, these people are certainly not grounded in any reality we would know. From saving the baby to don't blame the baby, some weird people.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:19 pm to drizztiger
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I can completely understand that thought and you easily could be right about Truman Show-esque type alternative.
Mark glitching in the fridge seems to suggest that.
Back on this being some kind of Nuralink / Matrix type reality. Everybody we see is in the Lumon basement hooked up to wires and floating in a tub of goo.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:04 pm to Stonehog
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It’s either Truman Show and all the characters have limited information about the “real world,” or it’s actually farther into the future than we think and some basic knowledge has been lost.
Then why would Mark know about it?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:21 pm to jlovel7
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Then why would Mark know about it?
Just spitballing. I think Mark is the subject of more experiments than we know about.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:49 pm to drizztiger
Their language usage is also very esoteric which adds the ethereal atmosphere
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:06 pm to DMagic
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Their language usage is also very esoteric which adds the ethereal atmosphere
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:12 pm to Esquire
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:50 am to DarthRebel
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My gut is that will be the cliffhanger. You are going to have an unsevered Mark, with Helly R, and they are going to find Ms. Casey. Mark is going to be looking at his living wife, whom he thought dead. Helly R is going to feel some raw emotions seeing the man she may love now, lost in Gemma.
Mark: Gemma it’s you. I’ve found you.
Gemma/Ms Casey: You’ve been fricking this redheaded bitch…on the clock. There are cameras everywhere, dumbass. We done.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:15 am to jlovel7
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Just watched the latest episode. My wife’s very religious parents got home right in the middle of the gay 3-way dinner and have no concept for this type of television or entertainment. It was incredibly awkward
I take it they're not Lutherans?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:02 am to Stonehog
I can't decide if this is all virtual reality or if some or part of it is real life.
The red or orange jumpsuit he's wearing in the animated opening credits made me think of either a prison or a hospital. What if he was driving drunk and caused the accident Gemma was in, she's in a coma, he's in prison and offered to undergo an experiment to heal her and atone for his faults? Or he and Gemma are both in comas in a hospital?
But if part of this is taking place in "real life" then that can't be true.
I swear after each episode I spend hours like
The red or orange jumpsuit he's wearing in the animated opening credits made me think of either a prison or a hospital. What if he was driving drunk and caused the accident Gemma was in, she's in a coma, he's in prison and offered to undergo an experiment to heal her and atone for his faults? Or he and Gemma are both in comas in a hospital?
But if part of this is taking place in "real life" then that can't be true.
I swear after each episode I spend hours like
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:16 am to DarthRebel
quote:Gonna have to disagree with you there. Part of Dylan's original badassness was that he had no conception of what's upstairs. He talked about people living underwater because the Earth was so messed up. He had no frame of reference for the outside world. He kicked arse at his job and has the finger traps to prove it. He assumed his outie kicked arse also.
Dylan was "bad arse" in the first season, to now be pussy whipped in season 2.
Then he had a glimpse of his son in the closet with Milchick (not gay) and learned a lot more about possibilities through Ricken, O&D, and the OTC incident. Now he's hearing from his outie's wife that his outie is not a badass, has trouble keeping jobs, and seems to be a "frick up." Then he makes out with her. Milchick and Huang don't appear to be monitoring the visitation room, so who knows where that goes?
Anyhoo, every character is on a journey. I don't see it as weakening at all.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 8:17 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:01 am to ILurkThereforeIAm
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I can't decide if this is all virtual reality or if some or part of it is real life.
In the first season I thought Lumon was real and all the “praise Kier” stuff was just to control the innies. But the unsevered are all into the cultish stuff too, so that leads me to believe they’re not living in the real world either.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:17 am to ILurkThereforeIAm
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Or he and Gemma are both in comas in a hospital?
Like where you going with this.
The Jacob's Ladder Theory - they living out another reality. Last episode is Gemma and Mark on the operating table and both die from the car crash but their consciousness somehow lives on in the hell that is Lumon.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:33 am to Ice Cold
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I don't see it as weakening at all.
They are using his outie wife to to keep him in check and under control. If someone is keeping you under control, you are in a weakened state and not your true self.
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Milchick and Huang don't appear to be monitoring the visitation room
100% being monitored, maybe they are letting stuff slide now, but everything is calculated with Lumon.
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Anyhoo, every character is on a journey.
True, but I do not like his.
Mark - His journey is making him stronger.
Helly - Her journey is making her human
Irv - His journey is a secret mission
Dylan - His journey is liking hugs
How we started with them though
Mark - Neutral company man, the work was mysterious and important.
Helly - Not a company person and doubter of why they were there.
Irv - Company man and lived by the Lumon teachings
Dylan - We are saving the world and kicking arse.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:47 am to DarthRebel
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Milchick and Huang don't appear to be monitoring the visitation room
100% being monitored, maybe they are letting stuff slide now, but everything is calculated with Lumon.
Yeah, remember in the 1st meeting in there, Ms. Huang specifically comes over an intercom and says not to divulge too much outside information. Seems like the wife called Milchik, Seth.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:55 am to Crimson K
Milkshake gave Huang control over the floor while he was...working on himself. So maybe she was busy somewhere else and unable to monitor Dylan and wife this time?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:53 am to BBMcGee
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So maybe she was busy somewhere else and unable to monitor Dylan and wife this time?
Yes, but they video everything.
Miss Huang may have been distracted, but I would think bringing an innie's spouse to the severed floor is a Sev 1 event. You cannot let Gretchen wander the halls down there, nor run into other severed employees. She would need to be tightly monitored. Maybe they are locked into the old security room?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:03 pm to Ice Cold
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Wait, she called Gemma "Hannah"? I totally missed that.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:04 pm to DarthRebel
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While that is true, it is just the stereotypical usage of dangling a carrot to get your horse to do what you want. They may get to the deep metaphysical and philosophical questions, but right now they just using it weaken a strong character from season 1.
Dylan was "bad arse" in the first season, to now be pussy whipped in season 2.
Finding out he has a family will change a man, and is likely the reason Lumon is letting this happen.
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