re: Severance Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers)

That might be one of the best episodes of television I’ve ever watched. At turns joyful, terrifying, confounding, creepy, layered, devastating - absolutely brilliant. And yes, Lumon officially does what it wants wherever it wants whenever it wants to whomever it wants.

ETA: And Mark might finally be ready to frick up some Eagan shite. Helena don’t even know.

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The evil severed floor was incredibly creepy with the alternates of the severed squad.

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Guess that answers who were the other folks in the ORTBO

That ep was heavy

Dating back epsiodes to Irvings "funeral" did anyone notice the "no malice palace" photo on the wall? This has to reference the malace in the palace between the pistons and pacers. The show is in Michigan. Plauers and fans got in a brawl. Players could sorta be seen as innies and fans as outties. A huge stretch I know but "No Malace Palace" what else could that reference but the Malace in the Palace?

What a debut for the director.

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What a debut for the director.

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Absolutely. Terrific episode. She’s an important part of the shows development, great to see her directorial debut go so well.

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That girl is so attractive.

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Altered Carbon, my friend

Long post warning:

I was thinking about what ‘cold harbor’ is since watching the last episode, and it has been in our faces the whole time. Im like 80% sure on this.

Based on the last episode, Gemma is the test rat for a more complex severance in order to avoid all painful experiences from her outie’s consciousness. Essentially there’s multiple separate innies for Gemma, each unique to the situation .

The work Mark is doing is to ensure that the painful experiences dont leak over into her main consciousness. Each room is its own painful experience which each have been projects Mark has worked on and completed already.

It’s also evident that the progress Lumen has made on avoiding pain is good enough to push to the market since they have a severed birth retreat where women ‘avoid’ the pain of childbirth.

Now what is the next step to eliminating pain and is worse than child birth? Also, why hasn’t Gemma been in the Cold Harbor room yet but has been in other rooms several times before? I’m also thinking ‘cold harvor’ is a one time only room too due to the Christmas sweater guy’s conversation with Drummond regarding him not being able to see her anymore after ‘cold harbor’


My answer is death or a near death experience such as wrecking a car and landing into a ‘cold harbor.’

It is strongly believed at this point Gemma hasn’t been in a wreck at all at this point and willingly walked into Lumen for a reason Im not sure on yet. The irony though is Mark is essentially working on the last room for Gemma to making her deadly crash a reality and fulfill Lumen’s ultimate goal.

Lumen’s ultimate goal is to have the Severance procedure help the outie to avoid any and all pain throughout their lives including death.

The question is now, how is Mark going to stop it.


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TLDR; Gemma is a test rat and the work Mark is doing is actually progressing towards actually killing her for Lumen’s ultimate goal of perfecting the severance procedure.

This show is awesome. Great payoff this week

Gonna need to rewatch a couple more times as well, but that episode is close to International Assassin level good. Wow.

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TLDR; Gemma is a test rat and the work Mark is doing is actually progressing towards actually killing her for Lumen’s ultimate goal of perfecting the severance procedure.

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Great analysis. Everyone should read the long version of your post.

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My answer is death or a near death experience such as wrecking a car and landing into a ‘cold harbor.’

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name of the episode is Chikhai Bardo, and it's very telling.

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In some schools of Buddhism, bardo or antarabhava is an intermediate, transitional, or liminal state between death and rebirth.

Used without qualification, "bardo" is the state of existence intermediate between two lives on earth. According to Tibetan tradition, after death and before one's next birth, when one's consciousness is not connected with a physical body, one experiences a variety of phenomena. These usually follow a particular sequence of degeneration from, just after death, the clearest experiences of reality of which one is spiritually capable, and then proceeding to terrifying hallucinations that arise from the impulses of one's previous unskillful actions. For the prepared and appropriately trained individuals, the bardo offers a state of great opportunity for liberation, since transcendental insight may arise with the direct experience of reality; for others, it can become a place of danger as the karmically created hallucinations can impel one into a less than desirable rebirth.

Metaphorically, bardo can be used to describe times when the usual way of life becomes suspended, as, for example, during a period of illness or during a meditation retreat. Such times can prove fruitful for spiritual progress because external constraints diminish. However, they can also present challenges because our less skillful impulses may come to the foreground, just as in the sidpa bardo.

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