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re: Rotten Tomatoes Last Jedi bot is fake. Scores just suck on their own.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:51 am to DelU249
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:51 am to DelU249
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It’s also why I suspect critics were paid or afraid of getting cut out of the Disney loop. 93% my arse.
Exactly. Disney is dominating. You think critics want to be shunned from future movies?
It's easy for any writer just to say: "oh, the negative audience reviews are bots or a vocal minority that is spamming RT." Articles don't need any substantive facts or corroboration for any assertions these days. It's conjured out of thin air.
There's no way it's a 93% score unless everyone has gotten sucked into the fear mode in Hollywood of being ostracized by not toeing the party line.
Which is odd because I always thought RT had so many online independant reviewers - a lot small time - that Hollywoods group mentality would have a watchdog from the outside.
But then again, maybe every critic is getting something in the mail these days from studios. There have been way too many movies the last 10 years that are above 90% that in the past would have no business being that high.
For example:
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull:
Critics - 77%
Audience - 53%
King Kong:
Critics - 84%
Audience - 50%
Barbershop, The Next Cut:
Critics - 90%
Audience - 67%
Spy Kids:
Critics - 93%
Audience - 46%
Get Out this year has a 99% critics rating...the same as The Godfather.
Critics ratings on RT haven't been worth anything but propaganda for awhile.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:51 am to DelU249
quote:As I have said, it had some redeeming parts.
It’s such an awful movie. If anything, what needs rationalizing is that some people don’t just like it, they love it maybe the name Star Wars has something to do with that...maybe they’re being fanboys
The issue is that it isn’t a Star Wars movie, not even if you include the tone of the prequels in the discussion.
It is a Marvel action-comedy with a convoluted plot and no payoff.
The score is even uplifting during supposedly depressing parts.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:52 am to AggieDub14
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I do not see that happening given how things worked out with him and Luke.
So because he wanted to kill the singular person that sent him to the darkness-his uncle and mentor who he awoke to about to murder him that means he is no longer conflicted? Do you listen to yourself?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:57 am to Adam Banks
That isn't what I was saying. I think killing Snoke resolved the conflict. He is full on bad now. I just don't see him trusting the light after Luke betrayed him. That's what I was saying.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:58 am to AggieDub14
quote:Luke betrayed him years before TFA...
I just don't see him trusting the light after Luke betrayed him.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:00 pm to AggieDub14
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:02 pm to Scruffy
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:04 pm to DelU249
Even with TFA's flaws, it was enjoyable to watch.
TLJ took you out of scenes with bad humor, made you laugh at how ridiculous it was during moments meant to be powerful, and left you with a subplot that meant nothing and an ending that doesn't make you look forward to the next one.
Nothing is on the line because the resistance has nowhere to go but "up". Things can't get any worse so we are just supposed to guess at which cliches and rehashed storylines are used to make them succeed? No thanks.
TLJ took you out of scenes with bad humor, made you laugh at how ridiculous it was during moments meant to be powerful, and left you with a subplot that meant nothing and an ending that doesn't make you look forward to the next one.
Nothing is on the line because the resistance has nowhere to go but "up". Things can't get any worse so we are just supposed to guess at which cliches and rehashed storylines are used to make them succeed? No thanks.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:04 pm to AggieDub14
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:07 pm to DelU249
quote:Rey wasn’t conflicted once in this movie. It is written to make you think she is going to jump directly to the dark side or be tempted by it, but the only reason we know that is because...
there shouldn't have been a conflict...which again we don't see it, we're told about it...it would make more sense that rey is the one conflicted. he can still be evil and care for rey...that's nuance. i like movies that aren't afraid to humanize the bad guys, even the most evil villains.
We are told by Luke.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:09 pm to JetsetNuggs
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Whatever this trilogy is, it was fully planned from the beginning.
They why does every single. Interview with the writer/director of this move contradict that?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:13 pm to JetsetNuggs
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Disney didn't get to where they are by wandering in the dark.
uh, The Lone Ranger, Tomorrowland, John Carter, Prince of Persia, Sorcerers Apprentice, The Alamo, Mars Needs Moms, and Treasure Planet, Around the World in 80 Days are holding on the phone for you
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:15 pm to Scruffy
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:16 pm to Breesus
This is starting to feel like they’re going the way of the final Harry Potter. Where Luke was the anti-Dumbledore and now we are going to get a story with Rey, Finn and Poe playing hide and seek from the First Order, one of them temporarily loses faith, and it ends with “everyone” facing the first order in the final battle.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:16 pm to Breesus
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:16 pm to RobbBobb
You missed the best one:
The Black Cauldron.
The Black Cauldron.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:17 pm to DelU249
quote:I agree with all of this.
there's no temptation, there's no genuine surprise just cheap shocks built off of expectations from pre-established ideas...which they achieve by copying those ideas and calling it all "original" and nothing happens in this movie, nothing
It is shallow as a puddle and we keep getting told it is deep.
There is nothing to the movie and there is no conflict or payoff.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:18 pm to DelU249
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so why is that trilogy good and this one is ruined 45 minutes into the second film?
Because Lucas and Kasdan made the first trilogy as director and writers. You don't have to plan the whole thing out if you're the guy making all three movies because it's your vision in the first place.
Disney gave JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson complete autonomy over their two movies. It has to be one of the stupidest decisions from a studio I can remember.
All of Rian Johnson's interviews have said this.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:21 pm to DelU249
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.so when kylo (who even though he's evil, cares for her) asks her to join him after killing snoke, you think there's some temptation there.
Agreed. Frankly the more reasonable decision is to join the individual who you are bonding with and just saved your life from the biggest evil in the universe saying they are going to change the world. Especially after you found out the most idealized individual who is supposed to be the embodiment of light in the universe is a cynical creep who attempted to murder the person who saved your life in his sleep simply for being conflicted.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:22 pm to Scruffy
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there's no temptation, there's no genuine surprise just cheap shocks built off of expectations from pre-established ideas...which they achieve by copying those ideas and calling it all "original" and nothing happens in this movie, nothing
I agree with all of this.
It is shallow as a puddle and we keep getting told it is deep.
Yep. Nothing of any consequence happened in the entire movie outside of Snoke's sudden and unexplained death.
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