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re: Oppenheimer | Official Reaction Thread | Spoilers
Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:16 pm to Rhames
Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:16 pm to Rhames
The movie didn’t invent or introduce nukes to the world though. I mean I’ve known nukes existed my entire life and what it meant if we ever entered into a nuclear war so it didn’t hit me that way since it’s nothing new. I know what you’re talking about but that hit me more when I first got told about nukes, and understood the destruction that they did.
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:26 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
For sure. I’ve just never really allowed myself to think about it. Especially for three hours straight and be forced to cope with how it feels.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:07 pm to Rhames
I saw it again today. Second viewing was even better. It truly puts you in his shoes for some of the most vital moments of his life and it brings in elements that all feel essential. I honestly didn’t feel like it was 3 hours. You get invested from the start and feel the slow build of intensity. I love how it ends on what he and Einstein said. Just a profound moment that truly encapsulates that film from the weight of building the bomb to Strauss’ inferiority complex.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:27 pm to ell_13
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I saw it again today. Second viewing was even better. It truly puts you in his shoes for some of the most vital moments of his life and it brings in elements that all feel essential. .
I'm sure it has been mentioned earlier in this thread, even though I kind of scanned the whole thing and didn't see it, that the color sequences were from really from Oppenheimer's view, and the black and white sequences were from Strauss's view.
Christopher Nolan acknowledged this in a recent press release.
I would like to see the movie again, with this new information.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:17 pm to tonydtigr
Saw it today in 70mm IMAX. Amazing.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:40 pm to tonydtigr
I also read that recently and it certainly added to the experience.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:49 pm to ell_13
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You get invested from the start and feel the slow build of intensity.
I’ve only seen it once and plan to see it again, but one thought I had after my viewing that the movie feels like it contains one single three hour instrumental song that gradually and slowly increases intention. Kind of reminded me of that color chart from Breaking Bad which breaks down the colors each character mostly wore throughout the series, and how pretty much all of them began the show wearing bright colors but slowly evolved into darker colors.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:35 am to ell_13
quote:Saw it yesterday and it was fantastic and I will go see again soon.
I love how it ends on what he and Einstein said.
That last scene lead me to think that Einstein truly knew his "theory" would let the genie out of the bottle and would ultimately would be corrupted by man. As stated in the movie, once they figured out the process the first thing they thought was not how to use this to help mankind, it was we can make a super bomb.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 10:43 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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The estimated death toll for taking the Japanese mainland were I believe 2 million u.s personnel and millions of Japanese lives. Even the women and children were so indoctrinated they were told to fight to the death charging with bamboo spears if need be
I heard a story the other day about the fact that the US had already stockpiled 500,000 Purple Heart medals in anticipation of the massive casualties expected from a Japanese invasion.
We still have well over 100,000 of them left today even after all the wars we have fought since.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:57 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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Yeah, to be honest I don’t know why IMAX is even necessary for the casual viewer. It’s not really the type of movie that seems to be drastically better because of IMAX, in my opinion.
It's definitely worth it for the audio alone in my opinion. Saw it last night and will definitely see it again in the theaters.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:20 pm to tiggerfan02 2021
they had soldiers who held our for decades in remote jungles. you have to think actually invading japan was going to cost us.
I dont know if dropping the bomb somewhere less populated but extremely visible first was ever considered but they didn’t surrender after the first bomb was dropped.
I dont know if dropping the bomb somewhere less populated but extremely visible first was ever considered but they didn’t surrender after the first bomb was dropped.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:05 pm to SammyTiger
So many stars/cameos in this movie. Too many to list. Really well-acted cast, too.
The Einstein-Opp scene is so true. Just reinforces that politician photo-ops with heroes, citizens, celebs & other politicians are as phony as it looks.
The Einstein-Opp scene is so true. Just reinforces that politician photo-ops with heroes, citizens, celebs & other politicians are as phony as it looks.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:13 pm to LSUFreek
I was looking on google maps today and realized the Trinity test site is no where near Los Alamos.
I wasn’t sure if they had said it in the movie or not but I thought it was sort of in the vicinity.
Anyone know why it’s 100s or miles south of Los Alamos?
I wasn’t sure if they had said it in the movie or not but I thought it was sort of in the vicinity.
Anyone know why it’s 100s or miles south of Los Alamos?
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:19 pm to jose
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Anyone know why it’s 100s or miles south of Los Alamos?
probably because they lived at Los Alamos and dropped an atomic bomb at Trinity.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:22 pm to jose
Maybe has something to do with a completely unknown novel bomb test?
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:12 pm to schexyoung
Just watched it again, and enjoyed it even more. Definitely recommend giving it another watch.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:23 am to tiggerfan02 2021
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I heard a story the other day about the fact that the US had already stockpiled 500,000 Purple Heart medals in anticipation of the massive casualties expected from a Japanese invasion.
Sadly without the Atomic bomb, the US would've been forced into the largest sea invasion in human history this side of Troy, far surpassing D-day, (hell, the Battle of Okinawa involved more ground troops, landing on the beach-heads than D-day.)
Fortifications and Japan's terrain made the landings predictable.
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Fresh in American minds would have been Operation Iceberg, the April 1945 assault on the island of Okinawa, 400 miles from the Japanese mainland and politically a part of Japan proper.
Rather than suicidal banzai charges in the face of American firepower, the Japanese changed tactics: they retreated to fortified lines and caves in the Okinawan interior, where they fought for three months and almost to the last man.
Meanwhile, wave after wave of kamikaze aircraft dove on U.S. and British Commonwealth ships (even the super-battleship Yamato made a suicide sortie). The result was more than 50,000 U.S. casualties, a quarter-million Japanese military and civilians dead, and more than 400 Allied ships sunk or damaged.
Operation Downfall would have made Okinawa look like a picnic.
As it had against a Mongol amphibious invasion in the 13th Century, the weather gods would have favored Japan. A devastating typhoon in October 1945 would have delayed Allied invasion preparations, while bad weather in the winter and spring of 1946 would have hampered operations and logistics.
The war could've gone on for another full year.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 2:24 am
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:10 pm to Revelator
The sound mix was better for me in the “standard” theater than it was in the IMAX.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:16 pm to ell_13
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Just a profound moment that truly encapsulates that film from the weight of building the bomb to Strauss’ inferiority complex.
The movie was entertaining, but it unsurprisingly downplays Oppenheimer’s responsibility in the Soviets obtaining the bomb.
Were the AEC hearings against Oppenheimer unfair? Probably yes.
Was Oppenheimer also too loose on security with all of his communist friends? Also, probably yes.
It was legitimate to revoke Oppenheimer’s security clearance at that time. And it’s also fair to question why he supported, or at least didn’t speak out against, developing WMDs against fascists, but did a complete 180 on that opinion when Soviets would have been the target.
I think it’d also be a fair argument that the US could have lost the Cold War if Oppenheimer had prevented the development of the H-Bomb like he tried to do.
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