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re: Official Yellowstone Season 5 Thread

Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:01 pm to
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Nobody mention the chick fight with Beth? At this point me and my wife just laughed. What more can you say? Oh, and just come back inside and eat like nothing happened and spit out your tooth. So ridiculous.


This is the same character who had a bomb go off right next to them and did the Gus Fring walk out of the destroyed building. In true Beth form however, she had to one up Gus by lighting a cigarette instead of collapsing dead.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:03 pm to
what exactly are you enjoying?
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:36 pm to
I’m hoping that it was Beth that was airlifted out and John was holding Carter in that split second shot.

Maybe that means Beth will be gone for an episode or two. Or at least I hope.
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
2246 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:43 pm to
Hopefully we get some more character development of Lloyd being a cuck.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:15 pm to
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lastly, john was pissed they came to dinner covered in blood, THAT was what his issue was, not them fighting it out, it was they didnt clean up after before returning to the table


Ok may be so but all things considered tbat seems like an awfully small thing to get upset about




its because it was the first time the family ever sat down to eat together as a family and that was his issue

hard to have a family dinner with 2 of them looking like they just committed an ax murder, and they are dripping blood on the table
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:20 pm to
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I think the show runners won't go for this since they'd lose at least half of their viewers.

agreed, and i dont want beth killed off, but at this point its hard to put that crazy back in the bottle so im not sure what they can do with beth other than kill her off or just return her to an occasional bit spot in the show here and there.

she needs to be removed as the main character, hell as it stands now, she is the focal point of the show more than john or even the ranch is
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:40 pm to
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she needs to be removed as the main character


Most of us here are red-blooded American males.
It's a true testament to how incredibly awful a character is: she is hot as fire- but she's so terrible, we would give up the shots of her in little dresses to make her go away.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7311 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:40 pm to
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I’m a badass and you’re a loser speech anytime someone talks to her and everybody just hearing her out and taking it. It’s sad that Rip has turned into a bitch.


I love a badass bitch woman. But most of us also love the strong male character as well. As a woman, I want to see Rip get the best of her a lot of the time. We all know she deserves it and honestly, deep inside, she wants someone to be stronger than her. If they played it right, the rough and tough Beth would be the scared shell on the outside of the very hurt and damanged Beth and we would see her show this with Rip. It truly ruins the best part of the relationship we should be seeing on the screen.

She also had also loved and respected John. She seems to now just be his attack dog-bitch that nips at everything around him she sees as a threat. It's just not the way things should be going. She could be that to some degree, but she has to actually listen to him and provide him counsel when he needs it instead of just fights and one liners.
Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:41 pm to
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She also had also loved and respected John. She seems to now just be his attack dog-bitch that nips at everything around him she sees as a threat. It's just not the way things should be going. She could be that to some degree, but she has to actually listen to him and provide him counsel when he needs it instead of just fights and one liners.
Well. Modern writing.
Strong female lead has to be better, smarter, tougher than the dumb, useless men.
Plus, it all has to come easily, do whatever she wants, have no consequences.

And for all of this, including beating the shite out of her father's guest..... John says he "envies" her.
WTF....
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40130 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:46 pm to
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what exactly are you enjoying?


All of it. I just take it as it is. I try not think about how I think the show should be. There’s like a dozen plot lines, and I realize not all of them can fit in one episode and that some may be a higher priority over others. It’s 45 minutes out of a whole week. Just sit back and relax and enjoy it for what it is.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38038 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:17 pm to
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I love a badass bitch woman
.

why? why does the female have to be a badass and a bitch? Why can't she just be badass? You (yeah, you specifically cause you posted as much) have it arse backwards. No one- not even other badass bitch women- like a bitch. You women seem to be so busy trying to be the boss bitch in an effort to be equal (or at least be seen as equal and taken seriously) that you lose sight of what makes women unique. And that uniqueness aint being a bitch.

Ripley in the movie Aliens was the gold standard of modern movies for a strong female character who never lost her femineity. Same for Jodi Foster in Silence of the Lambs, and Pam Grier in JAckie Brown. All badasses. None uber-bitches. Beth's character is the equivalent of a porn star. Theres nothing special or redeeming about either one. being the biggest bitch to everyone or sucking the most dicks may get you some weekend popularity, but it aint anything anyone wants around long term. its an odd choice for a hero.

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Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7311 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:32 pm to
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e movie Aliens was the gold standard of modern movies for a strong female character who never lost her femineity. Same for Jodi Foster in Silence of the Lambs, and Pam Grier in JAckie Brown. All badasses. None uber-bitches. Beth's character is the equivalent of a porn star. Theres nothing special or redeeming about either one. being the biggest bitch to everyone or sucking the most dicks may get you some weekend popularity, but it aint anything anyone wants around long term. its an odd choice for a hero.

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It appears to me that you stopped reading after that one sentence because what you took away is not what I said about Beth's character. Good Lord, man. You got no clue about me. Being an a-hole ain't what makes a man either, but you sure did a good imitation here.

The whole thing about being a bitch that you don't seem to understand, is that a woman who acts tough, expects a lot, etc. is often regarded as a bitch, when a man who exhibits those exact qualities is often thought of as direct, knows what he wants, strong, take charge. That is why many women don't mind being called a bitch. It's because we get called it when we have the same demands, take charge qualities, etc. as a man. It's not an odd choice for a hero at all. Nobody should give a shite if I'm feminine or anything at all at work. If you don't think a woman should ever act that way...well then I'm glad I don't know you IRL!

And guess what...at work, nobody gives a damn about anyone being "unique". They care about getting the job done. I don't give a damn if they are male, female, gay, whatever...pink, purple, black, white, or brown...just get the damn job done and don't whine about it.

You only see the superficial character of Beth because that is all they have shown recently. They show no layers of any of the folks on this show. Therefore, we only see annoying, badass, bitch Beth. But if you have really watched, you would see that she comes off this way because she's hurt, scared, and felt alone after she lost her mother. They just don't show growth from her or anyone!
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38038 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:45 pm to
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You got no clue about me.


fair enough. You posted it. I opined on it.

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Being an a-hole ain't what makes a man either, but you sure did a good imitation here
.

that wasn't an imitation .

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a woman who acts tough, expects a lot, etc. is often regarded as a bitch, when a man who exhibits those exact qualities is often thought of as direct, knows what he wants, strong, take charge. That is why many women don't mind being called a bitch. It's because we get called it when we have the same demands, take charge qualities, etc. as a man.


horse shite. Lots of women exhibit those exact qualities and never act bitchy or are considered such. I've worked for three such women. The difference is, many women are actually bitches and use the same excuse for their behavior as you just expounded.

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You only see the superficial character of Beth because that is all they have shown recently. They show no layers of any of the folks on this show. Therefore, we only see annoying, badass, bitch Beth. But if you have really watched, you would see that she comes off this way because she's hurt, scared, and felt alone after she lost her mother. They just don't show growth from her or anyone!


agreed. One dimensional character. Its wearing.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59038 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 11:04 pm to
The problem with this show is that no one improves.

Every character is the exact same person from episode 1.

There is nothing redeeming here.

I finally saw the latest episode, that cat fight on the lawn was terrible .

Holy shite.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
59038 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 11:06 pm to
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This is the same character who had a bomb go off right next to them and did the Gus Fring walk out of the destroyed building. In true Beth form however, she had to one up Gus by lighting a cigarette instead of collapsing dead.


Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21778 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:44 am to
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If it wasn't for Yellowstone, she'd have f'ing Hallmark Christmas Movies on all weekend.

Man that's a low bar!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111335 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:10 am to
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The whole thing about being a bitch that you don't seem to understand, is that a woman who acts tough, expects a lot, etc. is often regarded as a bitch,
Sigh

The governor on Yellowstone is tough as nails, direct, and owns the place and nobody demeans her. Beth is simply a huge stupid bitch

Kim mulkey in real life is respected for being tough as nails as direct. When women are called bitches it’s because they are bitches
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:48 am to
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Kim mulkey in real life is respected for being tough as nails as direct. When women are called bitches it’s because they are bitches
When the male significant other says his woman is crazy, you can discount his opinion.
When a different male says a woman is crazy, it's usually because she is crazy.
Random men are usually unbiased. They neither benefit or suffer from such statements.

Same goes for other adjectives....
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Kirk Herbstreit
in the outhouse
Member since Jan 2005
6191 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:13 pm to
I’m kind of surprised that Jimmy hasn’t been in any episodes while at the Four 6’s.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104024 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:22 pm to
After catching up on Yellowstone, I officially hate George and Tammy. Talk about fricking overkill.

Also frick Beth. Obviously.
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