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re: Official Better Call Saul Season 3 Episode 4: Sabrosito
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:49 pm to Miganey
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:49 pm to Miganey
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The play was always the breaking and entering. A and Jimmy still did destroy Chuck's property
That's what I can't wrap my head around. I think they are working some angle about the original tape, and also Chuck's craziness, but I am not sure how it save Jimmy from those charges.
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:51 pm to Miganey
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24 Hr overtime does NOT sound like an evil kingpin to me
He was adamant that "civilians" should not be involved.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:54 pm to Nodust
quote:the point he's making is a dangerous drug kingpin doesn't car about anyone but himself
He was adamant that "civilians" should not be involved
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:54 pm to Ham Solo
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That's what I can't wrap my head around. I think they are working some angle about the original tape, and also Chuck's craziness, but I am not sure how it save Jimmy from those charges.
I felt like they were trying to confirm that another tape actually existed and where it may be held
At this point McGills plan has to be to lessen the impact of the disciplinary board
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:56 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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the point he's making is a dangerous drug kingpin doesn't car about anyone but himself
Yes. I was adding to that point.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:00 pm to Miganey
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anybody else starting to get really pissed at Walter for killing some great protagonists in Gustavo and Mike
Walter White fricking sucked
Never thought he rose to Don Draper or Tony Soprano levels of anti hero
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:02 pm to Miganey
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24 Hr overtime does NOT sound like an evil kingpin to me
Not that I really disagree with you. Gus is awesome. But the overtime doesn't make Gus some nice guy. It is completely just a prudent move to win over his employees so that they will be happy keeping quiet and help cover Gus' tracks.
Gus is just using them and his legitimate business to hide in plain sight. If he is well liked and seems like a good employer and member of the community that just helps him to that end.
Gus is still totally a murderous sociopath.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:09 pm to supatigah
Chucks reference to evidence introduction being easier at a ethics hearing will come back to haunt him when Kim introduces her recording of him not denying he baited Jimmy. Chuck knowing he would need a duplicate tape begs intent
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:39 pm to Peazey
We all went round and round about how "realistic" Mike's plan was last week but, unless I missed it, nobody commented about the fact that some dudes terrorized an entire restaurant full of customers and employees and not one single person called 911 at any point before or after being released. 
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:50 am to Peazey
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Not that I really disagree with you. Gus is awesome. But the overtime doesn't make Gus some nice guy. It is completely just a prudent move to win over his employees so that they will be happy keeping quiet and help cover Gus' tracks.
Gus is just using them and his legitimate business to hide in plain sight. If he is well liked and seems like a good employer and member of the community that just helps him to that end.
Gus is still totally a murderous sociopath.
haha that part was kind of a joke. but either way I'm really really enjoying this season
Posted on 5/4/17 at 2:59 am to Crow Pie
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Chucks reference to evidence introduction being easier at a ethics hearing will come back to haunt him when Kim introduces her recording of him not denying he baited Jimmy. Chuck knowing he would need a duplicate tape begs intent
I think it's going to center around the wording of destroyed vs damaged property. When she said "try to get away with using damaged instead of destroyed" I think they did so that Chuck would force them to change it to destroyed. There was just too much emphasis on the wording of that phrase for it to be of no consequence.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:08 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Lyle
Those Lyle and Gus scenes were incredible.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:32 pm to tidalmouse
Can someone jog my my memory. Why were the dogs originally unable to smell the drugs in the trucks?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:11 pm to Merck
I'm torn between two scenarios.
1) Jimmy & Chuck reach a compromise allowing Jimmy to continue practicing law, but not under the McGill name.
2) Jimmy burns down all of HHM. Jimmy obtains the original tape and alters it. Chuck is accused of manufacturing evidence, entrapment, and mental instability. Howard & HHM also go down because he was present and it involved losing Mesa Verde.
Jimmy claims he busted down the door fearing Chuck was having an episode & everything else was staged.
The great thing about the show is that I doubt either scenario is close to the actual outcome. I am curious about the creation of Saul Goodman. Right now it's problematic. Jimmy can't show up at the courthouse as a criminal lawyer with the name Saul Goodman. He's far too well known unless there's a legitimate reason everyone there would accept.
1) Jimmy & Chuck reach a compromise allowing Jimmy to continue practicing law, but not under the McGill name.
2) Jimmy burns down all of HHM. Jimmy obtains the original tape and alters it. Chuck is accused of manufacturing evidence, entrapment, and mental instability. Howard & HHM also go down because he was present and it involved losing Mesa Verde.
Jimmy claims he busted down the door fearing Chuck was having an episode & everything else was staged.
The great thing about the show is that I doubt either scenario is close to the actual outcome. I am curious about the creation of Saul Goodman. Right now it's problematic. Jimmy can't show up at the courthouse as a criminal lawyer with the name Saul Goodman. He's far too well known unless there's a legitimate reason everyone there would accept.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:04 pm to Ghost of Colby
No real insight to add other than this show fricking rocks and Chuck can eat a dick.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 4:17 am to auburnu008
May have already been mentioned, but on the tape:
1. Episode 3, after the tape's existence has been discovered Kim tells Jimmy that New Mexico is a single party consent state. Only one party has to be aware of the recording. (Not sure if that is the proper legal term)
2. Kim set Chuck up and gets him to admit that the tape which was destroyed was a duplicate tape...which was in the recorder.
3. Was Kim recording Chuck when he said this? If so does this show Chuck was entrapping Jimmy? And with their own recording they have now gained the upper hand with Chuck.
4. Still, Jimmy broke the law and has admitted as much to them on record. So, I don't think it ends well for either of them if they go to court.
5. Chuck is forced to stop proceedings after hearing Kim's tape.
6. Chuck thinks its over. Jimmy now knows Chuck is out to get him disbarred.
7. Jimmy will now use pictures and anything else to have Chuck committed. He has already told Chuck he would die alone.
8. This also would explain why Jimmy, and Kim, would admit everything and even apologize to Chuck. It helped make Chuck more confident he had won and he dropped his guard and said something damaging to himself.
9. Maybe Chuck dies before being committed or soon thereafter.
10. Following Chuck's death, Jimmy now speeds up his transition to Saul.
1. Episode 3, after the tape's existence has been discovered Kim tells Jimmy that New Mexico is a single party consent state. Only one party has to be aware of the recording. (Not sure if that is the proper legal term)
2. Kim set Chuck up and gets him to admit that the tape which was destroyed was a duplicate tape...which was in the recorder.
3. Was Kim recording Chuck when he said this? If so does this show Chuck was entrapping Jimmy? And with their own recording they have now gained the upper hand with Chuck.
4. Still, Jimmy broke the law and has admitted as much to them on record. So, I don't think it ends well for either of them if they go to court.
5. Chuck is forced to stop proceedings after hearing Kim's tape.
6. Chuck thinks its over. Jimmy now knows Chuck is out to get him disbarred.
7. Jimmy will now use pictures and anything else to have Chuck committed. He has already told Chuck he would die alone.
8. This also would explain why Jimmy, and Kim, would admit everything and even apologize to Chuck. It helped make Chuck more confident he had won and he dropped his guard and said something damaging to himself.
9. Maybe Chuck dies before being committed or soon thereafter.
10. Following Chuck's death, Jimmy now speeds up his transition to Saul.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:48 am to Bama323_15
The series ends with Jimmy visiting a nursing home in Omaha. There we see Chuck in a dark room drooling in a wheelchair. Jimmy tells him he loves him. Chuck responds by ringing a bell. Fadeout......
Posted on 5/5/17 at 9:06 am to DragginFly
However it ends for Chuck, I hope he's in a hospital surrounded by every electronic gadget imaginable, and he doesn't have the ability to say anything about it...
Posted on 5/5/17 at 9:40 am to Bama323_15
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3. Was Kim recording Chuck when he said this? If so does this show Chuck was entrapping Jimmy? And with their own recording they have now gained the upper hand with Chuck.
The very existence of the tape is proof that he made a duplicate. Kim doesn't need a recording to prove this.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:31 am to Ham Solo
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I meant from a writers perspective.
demanding the dollar symbolizes her willingness to expand her complicity in his ongoing unethical behaviors
she took the dollar to protect the both of them and to hear his story, when she was at HHM she took a hear no evil, see no evil approach to Jimmy. She repeatedly admonished him for his words and actions. Now she is descending to his level and is conspiring with him because it turns her on.
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