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Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:52 pm to
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Guess I’m weird but I really liked E3

Yes the black chick is cringe but I enjoyed seeing Vader in his den


Agreed. This episode would be getting way more praise if we weren’t all in bad moods from the first two episodes and the terrible third sister

ETA: To clarify why it would get praise. For the heavy Vader time and their fight. Member berries not because of a stellar story.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 7:57 pm
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22271 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:55 pm to
Just finished it

Still bad
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:03 pm to
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This episode would be getting way more praise if we weren’t all in bad moods from the first two episodes and the terrible third sister



Do yall remember the feeling when Luke showed up in Mandalorian and destroyed all those droids? Or the way we felt when Vader showed up in Rogue One? That is the feeling they should have been trying to give us in this episode. But I didn't feel it. I'll probably watch it again and see if it hits me differently the second time.

But there is definitely a lack of trust with the viewers and this show. This director sucks arse, in my humble opinion. She has the most intimidating character in the history of film and she doesn't know what to do with him.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:03 pm to
I don’t think the loader droid was a droid. I think it is a clone. It holding the hammer when the stormtroopers come in, and the way the back of its legs look like repainted clone armor has me convinced.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 8:04 pm
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:05 pm to
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don’t think the loader droid was a droid. I think it is a clone. It


Looked too tall to be a clone, I thought.

But that Droid is one of the good things about this episode. Somebody got that right.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:06 pm to
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In regards to other discussions. Disney has already updated their info.


Where can I find this update?
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51688 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:10 pm to
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Looked too tall to be a clone, I thought.

Could it be Wrecker from The Bad Batch? Maybe it will be a droid, but it was definitely suspicious.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:17 pm to
OK, how was Obi-wan not burned to a crisp in that fire?
He has some burns but they should have been much worse.

Oh right...it's not real
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:22 pm to
I will be thoroughly disappointed if we don’t have an update to the Anakin Skywalker lost limb counter:

left arm: 1
right arm: 2
left leg: 1
right leg: 1

Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:38 pm to
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This show is just so poorly written.

I mean what the frick Obi-wan. That wasn't a duel. That was one guy tormenting another one, and then that one guy forgetting how powerful he is and just letting the little bitch run away. Stop being a winey little bitch and fight back Obi-Wan. I understand he's going through some rough shite, but Obi-Wan is supposed to be a confident cocky jedi, and he already defeated Anakin. It would have been much more entertaining for Obi-Wan to whip his arse real quick and escape, and piss off Vader even more, proving to him yet again that he's still the master. And when i say whip his arse, it could have been as simple as Obi-Wan just successfully blocking every attempt Vader makes at him so he knows he still can't get to him.

But no, we have to make Obi-wan be a scared little bitch. Did they not learn from the sequels after they made Luke a negative little bitch and got all the blowback from that?

I thought the scene of Vader burning Obi-Wan was just terrible writing. They seem desperate to show how powerful Vader is, yet they just let him get away with ease after one storm trooper is shot and there's a little fire in the way. You could have shown Vaders hate for Obi-wan by the frustration of him not being able to kill or torture him. Showing him torture him and then basically let him get away is lazy incompetent writing. You already showed his ruthlessness and power when he walked through the town killing random people.


+1 and I’ll add the stupidity of Obi-Wan listening to a child and allowing her to lead them right to Vader ultimately. All of a sudden Obi-Wan has become a pussy who forgot he beat Vader/Anakin and an idiot following a child after having refused to give in to Anakin and disagreeing with Qui-Gon’s lax approach to Anakin in the first prequel.

My how we’ve fallen from Mandalorian’s addition to Star Wars. Gave me hope after the sequel trilogy only for Disney to piss on it.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:51 pm to
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Agreed. This episode would be getting way more praise if we weren’t all in bad moods from the first two episodes and the terrible third sister


It was a good episode, people need to stop looking for shite to bitch about and just watch a show, and enjoy it for what it is. If it’s that bad for the people complaining, stop watching something you clearly have a problem with.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13247 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:54 pm to
The tone of this show is so dark.

Has Disney just decided there’s no hope of getting kids into Star Wars?

The writing is simply not up to par for the tone of the show.

The only appeal of this is “Woah Vader badass” and other member berries.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:54 pm to
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how was Obi-wan not burned to a crisp in that fire



He is gonna get in the bacta tank and get healed, have some flashbacks, and probably come out with some grey hair.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128270 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:57 pm to
He was in that fire for a good minute and has a mild sun burn
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:03 pm to
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Do yall remember the feeling when Luke showed up in Mandalorian and destroyed all those droids? Or the way we felt when Vader showed up in Rogue One? That is the feeling they should have been trying to give us in this episode. But I didn't feel it.


Good point and agree. Started well with Vader torturing/killing everyone with the force and shite all over it with the piss poor duel/fire avoidance. Entire fire scene was pointless. We already know he couldn’t have burned Obi-Wan that bad because it wouldn’t fit with the original trilogy. He can’t have a burned face or be significantly disfigured. Doesn’t help Obi-Wan was running away the entire time, not exactly exuding Jedi knight who’s defeated the opponent before.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10294 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:05 pm to
A few observations from watching this show:

1) Darth Vader straight up murdering people for no reason felt out of character.
2) Something felt off about Vader's confrontation with Obi-Wan. It just kinda felt flat. Waiting to see where they go from here.
3) I hate the new lightsabers. They are no longer lightsabers and instead are literally glow sticks. They looked like toys.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 9:06 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27310 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:22 pm to
I took it as he was trying to lure him out knowing he would want to save those people.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:32 pm to
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1) Darth Vader straight up murdering people for no reason felt out of character.
no, thats actually his character.
quote:

Something felt off about Vader's confrontation with Obi-Wan. It just kinda felt flat. Waiting to see where they go from here
yes, it felt like they were at a construction site in New Mexico on top of it.
quote:

I hate the new lightsabers. They are no longer lightsabers and instead are literally glow sticks. They looked like toys.
doesn't bother me much
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27402 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:37 pm to
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mean what the frick Obi-wan. That wasn't a duel. That was one guy tormenting another one, and then that one guy forgetting how powerful he is and just letting the little bitch run away. Stop being a winey little bitch and fight back Obi-Wan. I understand he's going through some rough shite, but Obi-Wan is supposed to be a confident cocky jedi, and he already defeated Anakin. It would have been much more entertaining for Obi-Wan to whip his arse real quick and escape, and piss off Vader even more, proving to him yet again that he's still the master. And when i say whip his arse, it could have been as simple as Obi-Wan just successfully blocking every attempt Vader makes at him so he knows he still can't get to him.


I get this. But just to play devil’s advocate it did make sense to me. Obi Wan was 10 years out of practice. His saber was buried in the desert and he deliberately tried to minimize his Jedi abilities to avoid detection. Everything that made him an elite Jedi has presumably been severely dulled.

He was also in shock of just learning that Vader was still alive after a decade of guilt and self doubt over how he failed Anakin. Suddenly he has to confront Vader who is enraged and who has spent the last decade hunting Jedi - waiting for the day to get to Kenobi.

All that said, I can understand why Kenobi could be so unprepared and hardly be able to stand up to Vader.

With even that said, if there is a second duel I would be pissed if we don’t get more of the old Kenobi.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 9:40 pm
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13247 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:40 pm to
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no, thats actually his character.


No it’s not. He’s very much a calculated villain in the original films. Not a psychopath.
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