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re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Disney+) - Episode 3 Discussion thread

Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:42 pm to
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It's ridiculous to expect me to believe that Obi-Wan has given up on the force for 10 years. He knows he still has a job to do, protect Luke and Leia, and eventually train them. You can't do that as a pathetic loser who forgot how to use the force. and you can't tell me he's not talked to Yoda once this entire time, and Yoda wouldn't have allowed him to fall into this stupidity.



He hasn't forgtten to use the Force. He literally used it to save Leia. It's a faith thing. The Force is all about your faith and continual use of the Force to stay connected to the living Force. Obi Wan's faith is shaken and not only that, he's suppressed it in order to not draw too much attention to Luke. Yoda was on a planet FULL of Force energy and life which masked his presence and allowed him to stay connected to the Force. He could proceed doing just what he had been doing without limiting himself the way Obi Wan was forced to.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:47 pm to
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Yoda was on a planet FULL of Force energy and life which masked his presence and allowed him to stay connected to the Force
planet of Dark Side energy at that
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128270 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:48 pm to
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Are they going for a campy feel on this show? I know the budget for this thing has to be insane but the action on this show is so poorly shot.


Out of all the Star Wars spin-offs this one should have the highest production value yet I can't help but notice when Obi-Wan is stumbling through the desert trying to get away from Darth Vader just how fricking unstable the camera is filming this. It's terrible and everything else along with it feels like I'm watching some cheap fan made film.

So the Grand Inquisitor is "killed" or disappears and none of the other Inquisitors wonder where the frick he's at or why they're taking orders from Reva?

Good to see the two worst actresses on the show, Reva and Leia, get to have scenes together now. Kill me.

I'm sorry but young Leia makes me want to punch her in the face, she's terrible and looks like she's around 6 and not 10. Her and Reva are so forced that I cringe trying to get through their scenes.

Reva is just god's gift to the Star Wars universe apparently. She walked into the droid building and knew exactly where the hideout was. Then somehow winds up in front up Leia in a one way tunnel. She takes me out of the element when she's on screen. Terrible casting and character.

Also, how the frick did Obi-Wan not get burned way worse than what he was? He should've been engulfed in flames, but escapes with hardly any burns but to his upper arm and side. That "dual" sucked and the constant changing of scenes during it didn't help.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 3:50 pm
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27419 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:51 pm to
see your problem (and mine) is we keep applying old star wars logic to this new bullshite star wars and none of it makes any rational sense. And if you have the unmitigated gall to say third sisters character sucks, or the writing sucks, you're a racist frick.

force is female bitch
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 3:51 pm
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:54 pm to
Only thing "Force" now days are these shite tastic characters thrown upon us.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:54 pm to
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figured he would have done the mind trick.


I expected the same but he seems to be trying so hard to avoid the force with fear of being detected. Which I think in the final episode we will see that change
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:55 pm to
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Good to see the two worst actresses on the show, Reva and Leia, get to have scenes together now. Kill me.
well, she has to at some point let Leia reminded her of herself.

Then I see her sacrificing herself for the princess. I dont know, I wanted more: obiwan, Vader, luke and grand inqisitor.

0 talk about politics or trade

Duel scenes that were better than, or equal to this fan made one Fans doing a better job than disney

And the beheading of jar jar

Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:55 pm to
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And if you have the unmitigated gall to say third sisters character sucks, or the writing sucks, you're a racist frick. force is female bitch



Melt more pussy.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27419 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:56 pm to
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Melt more pussy.



thank you for proving my point
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30321 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:59 pm to
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Your rant is pathetic. You're just like any other pathetic pussy Star Wars fan that, when things don't go the way THEY think it should, then the show is shite and retcons what they had in their mind.




go the way I think they should, or go the way the character has been written for 6 movies and 7 seasons of a tv show? We already know who he's supposed to be, just like we did with Luke.

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Log off and go touch some grass man. Jesus this is sad.


Shut up and go jerk off to the sequels.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:09 pm to
Lol I hate the sequels.


Obi Wan is allowed to have a crisis of faith. Characters grow. They regress, evolve, just like we do.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:14 pm to
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but Kanan didn't go into solitude


What version are we referring to here?

Kanan spent 14 years in hiding after cutting his Jedi Braid, locking his light saber away, completely avoiding using the force. For 14 years never tried to help a soul just hid evening working as a bartender. It was 14 years until he joined the Ghost crew and still then he hid from them his true identity. Even after Ezra joined the crew he initially refused to train him.

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Forced to hide his Force-sensitivity, Jarrus kept his lightsaber locked away and forsook the Jedi ways for a long time, disguising himself as a freighter pilot, a bounty hunter, and a frontier ranger. Drinking away his problems, Kanan drifted from planet to planet in order to avoid the watchful eye of the Empire, never staying too long in any one place, and never distinguishing himself from others.


Obi on the other hand did not go into solitude to hide from the Empire as much as he did so on the bequest of Yoda to watch over Luke. His avoidance of the force was to protect Luke.

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It's ridiculous to expect me to believe that Obi-Wan has given up on the force for 10 years. He knows he still has a job to do, protect Luke and Leia, and eventually train them. You can't do that as a pathetic loser who forgot how to use the force. and you can't tell me he's not talked to Yoda once this entire time, and Yoda wouldn't have allowed him to fall into this stupidity.



I do think they went overboard with this but I think know Anakin is alive has caused him PTSD. He was under the impression he had killed Anakin and did not know Vader was Anakin. He was responsible for training him and then not only did he turn to the dark side he killed all the younglings and help the Emperor bring down the Jedi Order.I think I can understand he reluctance to come back to something he helped to destroy. Just saying
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 4:16 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30321 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:18 pm to
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Obi Wan is allowed to have a crisis of faith. Characters grow. They regress, evolve, just like we do.




I 100% agree.

Doesn't mean he has to turn into a dumbass that refuses to use the force, knowing he has to train Luke (and protect him for that matter).
This Obi-Wan basically told Yoda and Qui-gon to go frick themselves and quit.
he can still have his doubts and crisis while still being a better force wielder than Vader.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
24820 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:21 pm to
Man this is terrible. What a horrible fight. And Vader just lets him get away because there’s some fire?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30321 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Kanan spent 14 years in hiding after cutting his Jedi Braid, locking his light saber away, completely avoiding using the force. For 14 years never tried to help a soul just hid evening working as a bartender. It was 14 years until he joined the Ghost crew and still then he hid from them his true identity. Even after Ezra joined the crew he initially refused to train him.



and yet, he didn't look like someone who didnt' know how to weild a light saber after those 14 years, or how to use the force.

there's a difference between being reluctant to use it in public, and not being able to.


Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:35 pm to
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there's a difference between being reluctant to use it in public, and not being able to.




I do not think he was unable but already had issues when facing Anakin the first and did everything he could not to kill him in SWIII.

I guess you feel the same way about Luke who also told Yoda he could not kill his father and even when the time came where he needed to to he also refused to fight Vader.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12295 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:35 pm to
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Man this is terrible. What a horrible fight. And Vader just lets him get away because there’s some fire?



Didn't Vader just put the fire out with the force?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:38 pm to
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Didn't Vader just put the fire out with the force?

Yeah, that was pretty glaring. It's also interesting that he was force choking a Jedi master, but then couldn't find a way to stop that droid with the force.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:43 pm to
Maybe because he has his reasons? Let’s see it play out then criticize it if it doesn’t make sense later
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:57 pm to
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Maybe because he has his reasons? Let’s see it play out then criticize it if it doesn’t make sense later
the main thing i reduce it down to is that he was wanting to toy with him..but, I feel of all people he would toy with, none would be Obiwan.

Feel as if that is the absolute 1 man he would kill on sight, or die trying to kill at any cost.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 4:59 pm
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