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re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Disney+) - Episode 3 Discussion thread

Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:55 am to
Posted by banone74
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:55 am to
Come on man you’re just being difficult for the sake of it. That outfit Kenobi had on is the same look all Jedi have. All those force ghosts pics of Annakin, Kenobi, Yoda etc, they all had that brown robe with lighter underclothes. What Owen is wearing is not the same, but looks like we’re all nitpicking so carry on. And that hologram of his face seemed to be blasting everywhere to every bad guy in the galaxy, but 6 Stormtroopers don’t recognize him?
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:00 pm to
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Honestly really enjoyed that episode and thought Reva was better here than in the first two by a good bit.
Vader voiced by JEJ was great to see as well. Will be interesting to see what else we get these last 3 episodes. Qui Gonn force voice, or live-action flashbacks(which I can’t believe they haven’t shown any yet)?


agreed 100%
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:01 pm to
Is it possible that Vader meets Leia and realizes who she is, but keeps it to himself because he knows the emperor will want her killed?

Maybe that’s how Obi-Wan finds out Anakin still has good in him. He lets Leia live.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:12 pm to
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Maybe that’s how Obi-Wan finds out Anakin still has good in him. He lets Leia live.



Honestly I feel like it will be the opposite. He’ll see Anakin doesn’t sense Leia is his daughter and is treating her terribly and realize that all the good in his friend is now gone. More machine now than man. Twisted and evil.

I’ll be curious to see if they have Vader and Leia interact at all
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Is it possible that Vader meets Leia and realizes who she is, but keeps it to himself because he knows the emperor will want her killed?

Maybe that’s how Obi-Wan finds out Anakin still has good in him. He lets Leia live.



I'd probably get a little irrational about this. At this point in the timeline there is nothing good in Vader. This is supposed to be peak Vader. There is nothing about him right now that is supposed to be sympathetic.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:17 pm to
Vader says to Luke in ROTJ that “Obi-Wan once thought as you do” when Luke says he can feel the good in him still. I figured that’s what made Obi-Wan feel that way.

And maybe he doesn’t necessarily decide to let her live. Just hesitates or shows some hesitation in giving her to Palpatine.

Just pure speculation
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:27 pm to
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the Grand Inquisitor is dead?
his people have 2 stomachs and hearts iirc. Plus they can live to be as old as Yoda, 700 years and shite.

Plus you can be stabbed, shot, cut in half, Burned, etc in star wars and live through it if the plot needs you.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Is it possible that Vader meets Leia and realizes who she is,
that would shite on too much. He needs to not know about any of her.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:34 pm to
The Grand Inquisitors race has two stomachs or something like you said. So she stabbed him somewhere that’s not deadly to his race
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 12:35 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:47 pm to
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So it comes out that the 3rd Sister and Vader are a couple in the next episode. Holy shite


After all the burns he now has to force bang her.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:04 pm to
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Maybe that’s how Obi-Wan finds out Anakin still has good in him. He lets Leia live.



But by the original trilogy, Obi Wan doesn't believe there is any good in Vader.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:15 pm to
Vader said “Obi-Wan once thought as you do” when Luke says he can feel the conflict within him in ROTJ. So Anakin is still in there somewhere and Leia could show that.

Again, the likelihood that happens is super small but it’s an interesting thought
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:21 pm to
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Vader said “Obi-Wan once thought as you do” when Luke says he can feel the conflict within him in ROTJ. So Anakin is still in there somewhere and Leia could show that.


I think he may still feel that now, but any hope of that will die during this series.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:34 pm to
Agreed. Through the next 3 episodes I think Obi Wan will confront Vader and his guilt and open himself back to the Force. Maybe Qui Gon gives him some encouragement to confront Vader and try to turn him back.


Either way, we’re definitely getting another duel. Loved that episode. It did seem to drag in the middle until Obi Wan shot the stormtroopers but it was still a damn good episode.
Posted by texn
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Is it possible that Vader meets Leia and realizes who she is, but keeps it to himself because he knows the emperor will want her killed?


No. In Return of the Jedi, Vader first learns that Leia is his daughter when Vader reads Luke's thoughts of his sister. Then Vader develops Plan B of, if he couldn't turn Luke to the dark side, perhaps he could turn her.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:47 pm to
This show is just so poorly written.

I mean what the frick Obi-wan. That wasn't a duel. That was one guy tormenting another one, and then that one guy forgetting how powerful he is and just letting the little bitch run away. Stop being a winey little bitch and fight back Obi-Wan. I understand he's going through some rough shite, but Obi-Wan is supposed to be a confident cocky jedi, and he already defeated Anakin.
It would have been much more entertaining for Obi-Wan to whip his arse real quick and escape, and piss off Vader even more, proving to him yet again that he's still the master. And when i say whip his arse, it could have been as simple as Obi-Wan just successfully blocking every attempt Vader makes at him so he knows he still can't get to him.
But no, we have to make Obi-wan be a scared little bitch. Did they not learn from the sequels after they made Luke a negative little bitch and got all the blowback from that?

I thought the scene of Vader burning Obi-Wan was just terrible writing. They seem desperate to show how powerful Vader is, yet they just let him get away with ease after one storm trooper is shot and there's a little fire in the way. You could have shown Vaders hate for Obi-wan by the frustration of him not being able to kill or torture him. Showing him torture him and then basically let him get away is lazy incompetent writing. You already showed his ruthlessness and power when he walked through the town killing random people.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:56 pm to
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that would shite on too much. He needs to not know about any of her.


I was under the impression in A New Hope that Vader and Leia had met before.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:56 pm to
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Is it possible that Vader meets Leia and realizes who she is, but keeps it to himself because he knows the emperor will want her killed?



You'd have to go back and look at their conversation in the beginning of A New Hope. Vader doesn't let on that Leia is his daughter when he captures her ship. I can't remember what all he says to her though.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:58 pm to
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I'm not saying I think he is. I don't think he is, nor do I see any reason to kill him off. But this is Disney, so I at least consider the possibility of them retconning something


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Disney has already updated their info. [quote]Angry that he would take all the credit for Obi-Wan's capture, she decided to stab the Grand Inquisitor in the stomach so she could capture Obi-Wan herself. The Grand Inquisitor collapsed from his wound, but he proved ...


I also do not mind the Leia story arc and would not be surprised to see a Leia live action and/or movie on the way. Very little about her until Rebels.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:04 pm to
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I think he may still feel that now, but any hope of that will die during this series.


This is where I am as well. At some point Obi-wan will have the opportunity to kill Vader, but moved by his compassion, will attempt to appeal to Anakin, only to find there is no Anakin there.

That would jive with both, "Obi-wan once thought as you do," and "he is more machine now than man, twisted and evil."

But Vader cannot know that Leia is his daughter. He needs to find that out on the Death Star II when he mind rapes Luke Skywalker.
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