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re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Disney+) - Episode 3 Discussion thread

Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:17 am to
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:17 am to
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I don't think Reva chased her through the tunnels


Speaking of which, Leia noticed the man she was supposed to meet was dead, and you'd assume the quick-learning Leia would suspect Reva did it, so it'd be logical that Leia would try to run away from Reva next episode, which would be unintentionally hilarious to watch.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:18 am to
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I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner. Now, I am the master.


The only way that line will still have any meaning at all is if in these last 3 episodes OB1 kicks Vader's arse.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:23 am to
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Oh my this really was unintentional


No, it wasn't. For that to be true the writers would have had to randomly pick a Pau'an out of the entire list of SW species that were temple guards and style him just like the one in Rebels.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:30 am to
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No it’s not. He’s very much a calculated villain in the original films. Not a psychopath.


He's been killing people he doesn't need to kill ever since he murdered the entire clan of Tusken Raiders during his mother's rescue. He even admits to Padme that he needlessly killed all the women and children. Since Episode II his temper has been a major problem. If he's mad there's a good chance he might kill you. He does it in A New Hope right at the start when he's mad the captain won't tell him where the plans are and from then on he's constantly killing his underlings simply b/c they didn't get shite done fast enough or well enough for him.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:32 am
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:36 am to
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Once could, solidly, make the arrangement that Kenobi is the most powerful jedi ever, or at least the most skilled with a light Saber.


Absolutely not. He only beat Anakin b/c he was lucky enough to get the high ground during the battle. Had that continued on a flat terrain he would have been fricked.

He also got wrecked by Dooku two different times and would have been dead had he not been saved once by Yoda and once by Anakin.

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But Obi Wan beat Darth Maul (twice)


Haven't seen the 2nd time but the first he was somewhat lucky. He didn't win b/c of his fighting skills, he won b/c Maul was taken by surprise he was able to jump out that pit he was hanging in. Maul basically pulled an Oberon and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by not immediately killing him.

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general grievous


Grievous may have looked cool w/all those light sabers but honestly that fight should have been over in two seconds. A good solid force push and then use the force to drop something on his head is all it should have taken. IMO it was always kind of dumb that a cyborg was able to defeat any Jedi let alone be able to put up a fight.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:46 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:40 am to
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He only beat Anakin b/c he was lucky enough to get the high ground during the battle.


I only have on thing to say about that... .

LINK
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:41 am to
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He only beat Anakin b/c he was lucky enough to get the high ground during the battle. Had that continued on a flat terrain he would have been fricked.


Lol he was trying to not kill anakin the entire duel. He even tried convincing him mid fight to stop.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:47 am to
He didn't want to kill him but he still got lucky. Anakin was too aggressive and went for an attack that had no chance of working similar to how he was defeated by Dooku the first time they fought b/c he let his anger take over and rushed in.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:50 am
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:48 am to
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I only have on thing to say about that... .


Says a man too proud to admit he has been lucky multiple times in his life.

Hell, just surviving the opening of Revenge of the Sith was pure luck. He got his arse kicked by Dooku and the only reason he doesn't die is b/c Anakin was able to guide the ship in when it's crashing down to the planet.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:50 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:50 am to
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But Obi Wan beat Darth Maul (twice), general grievous and Anakin. That's a solid list.




He also got his arse handed to him by Dooku, twice, even though Sith Lords are his specialty.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:52 am to
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says a man too proud to admit he has been lucky multiple times in his life.


Keep typing. I'll say the same thing again. LINK

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Hell, just surviving the opening of Revenge of the Sith was pure luck. He got his arse kicked by Dooku and the only reason he doesn't die is b/c Anakin was able to guide the ship in when it's crashing down to the planet.


And Anakin guiding the ship down to Coruscant wasn't luck. It was him using the force to guide the ship down to the surface of the planet. You need to dig deeper into the universe.


Youtube



This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:56 am to
It was luck b/c he had nothing to do with surviving that event. He was soundly defeated by Dooku and knocked out on the floor w/a bunch of shrapnel partly covering his legs. If Anakin wasn't there he's done.

He's really really good but he isn't the best. Yoda and Dooku are for sure better. Windu probably is too since he was able to take down Palpatine.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:58 am
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:57 am to
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I understand where you coming from, and I didn't say it was right, I just said you could make a solid argument.



Well, if you're gonna criticize these writers for getting canon wrong, at least get it right yourself.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:58 am to
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It was luck b/c he had nothing to do with surviving that event


He had nothing to do with it, really? Who exactly was Anakin's master (as in the sense of trainer)?
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:59 am
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:00 am to
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Who exactly was Anakin's master?




He didn't teach Anakin to fly. He was already able to do stuff most people had no chance of being able to do well before they met.

Regardless of how you feel about the luck bit, he simply was not the best duelist among the Jedi.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 10:02 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:04 am to
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Well, if you're gonna criticize these writers for getting canon wrong, at least get it right yourself.



Touche'!
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:12 am to
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No it’s not. He’s very much a calculated villain in the original films. Not a psychopath.




He was killing those people to draw Obi-Wan out
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:26 am to
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I learned something new that I think I overlooked, or forgot about. I always kinda assumed Vader's left arm was his only remaining limb. Felt like that is why he uses it so dominantly when displaying his use of the force. Guess I remembered it wrong lol



Dooku cut of his right arm. Obi-Wan actually cut off his left arm too when he cut his legs off, so all of his limbs are mechanical now.

but i don't expect these writers to remember that, or care enough about it.



One of the best parts about Luke's entrance in the Mandalorian was you didn't really know it was him until you saw the camera clearly show his left hand was real early in the fight, then they slowly crawl up as hes walking, seconds later, and show him holding the green light saber with his right hand which has a glove on it. At least for me, that was the moment i knew it was Luke, and you know the writers of that show did that on purpose. But those writers actually love the source material and want to make a great Star Wars show.




I also think one of the more intimidating things about Vader is when he fights with the light saber with one hand. Everyone you see fights with both hands on the saber. In Empire Strikes back he fights Luke with one hand most of the time. In Rogue one he does the same thing. It just looks more bad arse and that he's not even having to try to kick everyone arse.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:27 am to
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so it'd be logical that Leia would try to run away from Reva next episode, which would be unintentionally hilarious to watch.


She took off running at the end of the episode.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:28 am to
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TideWarrior


Thanks for the link. My friends said I made it up
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