re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)

I'm only 5 episodes in but man, it's like they moved Mississippi up to Canada and their accents changed

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I'm banking on TD.com being a deep web wasteland, not on the FBI's radar.

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Nah man, the NSA collects everything and shares with FBI. This site isn't encrypted, clear text packets. Personally I am a huge fan of all law enforcement.

So I would recommend that folks read the information that was not put in the series. Now I'm really confused LINK

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So I would recommend that folks read the information that was not put in the series.

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That has already been posted a few times and has been shown to contain information that is somewhere between inconsequential and made up.

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3. The car key unearthed in Avery's residence had DNA from his sweat on it

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Dean Strang addresses that point exactly

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2. Avery and his girlfriend had a less than rosy relationship at times

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A magazine is their source?

The author of that link you posted also had an affair with the Milwaukee Police Chief. She has wrote several articles speaking for the law enforcement involved.

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Brendan definitely needs a new trial because of his "supposed" confession.

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Astonishingly, more than 1 out of 4 people wrongfully convicted but later exonerated by DNA evidence made a false confession or incriminating statement.

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- Innocence Project

Even higher, were those who had a low IQ or were mentally challenged...


Mentally retarded people are particularly vulnerable to being wrongfully convicted. With their desire to please authority figures, they are very susceptible to being influenced during interrogation and often ""confess"" to crimes they did not commit.

David Vasquez, Virginia

Convicted: 1985
Exonerated: 1989

David Vasquez was arrested for the murder of a woman who was killed in her Arlington County, Virginia home. She was sexually assaulted and then hung. Vasquez, who is borderline mentally retarded, had reportedly confessed to the crime, allegedly supplying details not released to the public.

Vasquez' attorneys argued that the interrogations were tainted because of his lower than normal intelligence.

Vasquez' innocence, and limited mental capacity, was demonstrated by his interrogation by the police.

The following is an excerpt from the interrogation of Vasquez by the police.

Detective 1: Did she tell you to tie her hands behind her back?

Vasquez: Ah, if she did, I did.

Detective 2: Whatcha use?

Vasquez: The ropes?

Detective 2: No, not the ropes. Whatcha use?

Vasquez: Only my belt.

Detective 2: No, not your belt... Remember being out in the sunroom, the room that sits out to the back of the house? ...and what did you cut down? To use?

Vasquez: That, uh, clothesline?

Detective 2: No, it wasn't a clothesline, it was something like a clothesline. What was it? By the window? Think about the Venetian blinds, David. Remember cutting the Venetian blind cords?

Vasquez: Ah, it's the same as rope?

Detective 2: Yeah.

Detective 1: Okay, now tell us how it went, David -- tell us how you did it.

Vasquez: She told me to grab the knife, and, and, stab her, that's all.

Detective 2: (voice raised) David, no, David.

Vasquez: If it did happen, and I did it, and my fingerprints were on it...

Detective 2: (slamming his hand on the table and yelling) You hung her!

Vasquez: What?

Detective 2: You hung her!

Vasquez: Okay, so I hung her.

Because of this "confession," David Vasquez spent five years in prison before he was pardoned.

As terrible as this documentary made me feel for Steven Avery, I finished the final episode feeling the worst for Brendan Dassey.

This poor fricking kid. He's mentally challenged and he had to admit on the stand during his murder trial that the reason he lost weight was because he was being bullied and his first (and only) girlfriend dumped him because of it. And the piece of shite prosecutors used it against him. That honestly damn near brought me to tears.

I obviously hope Steven Avery gets another shot at redemption, but Dassey needs to be given some hope right now. His conviction is just sickening. His stupidity was taken advantage of and they put him in jail because of it. To me, that is the most troubling part of the whole documentary.

My new theory.

Bobby Dassey or Scott Tadych accidentally shot her on the property trying to test out their guns before hunting. ..


Not a theory actually, much less, just a random idea to throw out there.

Just finished the series, and I don't know if Steven Avery killed Teresa or not. As a juror, though, I would have voted not guilty because I'm not convinced he did.

These latest protestations by DA Kratz that the film makers left out key bits of evidence against Avery are absurd, to say the least. Every last one of these "left out" bits can be easily explained away... I didn't need Mr. Strang to do that for me.

But here's what I find missing from this very long thread: It really should not have mattered whether or not Steven committed the crime... given the participation by the Manitowoc Police Department and the fact that most of the damning evidence came by their hands Steven SHOULD NEVER HAVE GONE TO TRIAL in the first place, guilty in fact or not.

Obviously, that would not have served the Halbach family very well, but we as a society simply should not abide deliberate misconduct within the law enforcement and justice processes. Conflict of interest is, itself, misconduct, which makes planting of evidence all too attractive. If Avery had to walk without a trial to make that point then that's a lesson the police should learn and then have to explain away to the victim's families.