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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)

Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:16 am to
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:16 am to
I get more angry with each episode it seems. Such fricked up shite. frick that county.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:20 am to
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IOW, it was preposterous even then...but unfortunately for SA, it now no longer meets the explicit minimum standard set forth by Wiscy law.


The moment you knew the FBI guy was full of crap was when he testified to the evidence of lack of tampering in the blood he didn't even test. That's not science, that's alchemy. But jurors get wide eyed over FBI guys doing a forensic test, and don't even pay attention to how faulty the test is.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:23 am to
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The moment you knew the FBI guy was full of crap was when he testified to the evidence of lack of tampering in the blood he didn't even test.


What was in it for the FBI guy to say something so transparently stupid and dishonest? I mean, literally giving an opinion on an untested sample.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:23 am to
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Such fricked up shite. frick that county.


Please don't allow yourself to believe it's limited to one county in Wisconsin.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:25 am to
Oh I know it happens elsewhere. But frick that county. frick that Kratz POS.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:36 am to
I maintain that all of the little guy bad actors are to be expected, but the judges and other higher-ups should really be placed under scrutiny.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52282 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:51 am to
Did everyone read Avery thinks his brothers did it and set him up? They both have bad sexual assault pasts.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:00 pm to
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What was in it for the FBI guy to say something so transparently stupid and dishonest?


The arrogance of knowing that the jury will believe anything you say. It's intoxicating, and nothing was in place to stop him from asserting his own bad-assery.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39853 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:02 pm to
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The arrogance of knowing that the jury will believe anything you say. It's intoxicating, and nothing was in place to stop him from asserting his own bad-assery.


Just seems crazy that some podunk county calls the FBI and this guy is willing on short notice to swoop in, defend a poorly executed test AND make shite up about samples he didn't even test. There has to be more to it than this. Or maybe there doesn't. FML
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:09 pm to
I'd love to know if it was possible to subpoena Colburn's phone records, and if he placed any other calls around the time of calling in the license plate. That could be telling.





ETA: Just saw this. Perhaps the biggest mystery of all.

This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 12:15 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:33 pm to
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The moment you knew the FBI guy was full of crap was when he testified to the evidence of lack of tampering in the blood he didn't even test. That's not science, that's alchemy. But jurors get wide eyed over FBI guys doing a forensic test, and don't even pay attention to how faulty the test is.


The prosecution lawyers talking so confidently about the scientific testing is infuriating. Im surprised the media members took any of their words, because they are just linguists trying to build a narrative, not trying to find the truth.
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 6:07 pm to
Awesome documentary. I have 3 left.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:08 pm to
I'm on episode 4.
The kid is very timid and obviously they're influencing him, I don't think so far he's said anything that came from him. Only has agreed to their suggestions of what happened.

Mom: You're going to go to prison

Brendan: yeah

Mom: for the rest of your life, for something that's not even true

Brendan: yeah


I'm not sure wtf happened, but I'm not sold on the framing...how many people would have to be in on that?
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 8:10 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:15 pm to
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how many people would have to be in on that?


One, two at the most.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:18 pm to
I could see one or two. But the way the evidence is seems like if it were a framing there'd be more people involved....which wouldn't work because someone would end up fricking it up. And these people don't seem smart enough to pull that off.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:29 pm to
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which wouldn't work because someone would end up fricking it up. And these people don't seem smart enough to pull that off.


I mean, how would you or everyone else that keeps saying this even know? I'm confident in saying that I doubt you know what it takes to frame someone.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:37 pm to
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I could see one or two. But the way the evidence is seems like if it were a framing there'd be more people involved....which wouldn't work because someone would end up fricking it up. And these people don't seem smart enough to pull that off.


I think it's most likely that someone killed her near the property, then investigators assumed Avery did it and made sure they'd get a conviction that couldn't be questioned this time. Every piece of evidence is at least suspect. I'd say they weren't as smart as you imply they'd need to be.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:48 pm to
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I could see one or two. But the way the evidence is seems like if it were a framing there'd be more people involved....which wouldn't work because someone would end up fricking it up. And these people don't seem smart enough to pull that off.




I don't think you have any idea. Ever framed someone? Ever framed someone under the circumstances of a murder ?

That's just a leap in logic like everything else. It's just a jump to this or that.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
42477 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:23 pm to
What do you guys think about some of the articles out there highlighting (possibly) damning things the documentary allegedly missed?
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
27813 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:25 pm to
Only on episode 3 but this is pretty gripping stuff
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