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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:15 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:15 pm to I B Freeman
You are the vast majority we all know and love. You're right. Thanks for explaining it.
This doc reminds me of when you see someone that gets busted for something on the new by the cops, which they probably did, but they make it a point to say "and see he had weed on him" therefore he must be guilty.
This doc reminds me of when you see someone that gets busted for something on the new by the cops, which they probably did, but they make it a point to say "and see he had weed on him" therefore he must be guilty.
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:16 pm to 13SaintTiger
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There was a burn site outside of the Avery's property where bones were found. Did you miss that.
I thought both burn sites were on his property, but one was further away. It was off site? Like off his property?
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I will also say, why are you insinuating the cops couldn't have had anything to do with this?
I've said all along that they were very shady and corrupted a lot of the evidence. But planting evidence and being accomplices to the murder are vastly different things. I'm just don't see why they would do that.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:16 pm to brmark70816
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If she was killed somewhere else, why would they transport her in her car?
Consolidation of evidence.
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Where could they have burned her body?
One of the three separate locations where her bone fragments were found. Pick one.
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You see, the set up only exists if you include the cops. Which means you have to admit that the cops worked with one or all of the other guys you want to implicate. You have to follow the whole thing out to it's logical conclusion.
Nonsense. It's entirely plausible that the two parties acted independent of each other.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:19 pm to I B Freeman
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Wrong. He was not there for the entire deliberation. He was there for four hours of deliberation--hardly time to discuss the judge's jury charge and review the law involved.
Yet, enough time for a vote. He was also there for the entire trial.
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Wisconsin court system
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:21 pm to I B Freeman
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You got a link where a juror said he believed the cops conspired with a third party murderer as you said was possible?
This isn't necessary. That's not what they were there to determine.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Kratz tried to say in THIS Fox interview on the Kelly Files that Branden Dassey had bleach stains on his jeans.
Well, the creep is at it again.
LINK
In other words, you need a special type of bleach to remove DNA. The clorox household bleach does not serve that purpose.
Well, the creep is at it again.
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To understand how it all works, you have to consider that there are two kinds of bleach that are found in the majority of cleaning products within your home. There are bleaches that are primarily chlorine and there is also oxygen bleach.
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Chlorine bleaches can remove a Bloodstain to the naked eye but fortunately, forensics experts can use the application of substances such as luminol or phenolphthalein to show that haemoglobin is present. In fact, even if the shady criminal washed a bloodstained item of clothing 10 times, these chemicals could still reveal blood.
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To properly assess whether bleach could fully remove blood, researchers soaked some bloodstained clothing in oxygen bleach for a couple of hours. After the bleaching, stains did look faded, although they were still somewhat noticeable. On the other hand, even though there was some visible marking, luminol and phenolphthalein didn't detect the haemoglobin on the clothing.
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Fortunately, there is a better chance of obtaining useful information from the seams of clothing. While washing does remove a great deal of evidence in the rest of the garment, it is far more challenging for a criminal to remove evidence found in the clothing seams.
In other words, you need a special type of bleach to remove DNA. The clorox household bleach does not serve that purpose.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:26 pm to I B Freeman
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Last episode showed a copy of a letter from them to Avery saying they were not going to try to help him.
Taken straight from their site:
As you will learn through the series, a member of the Innocence Network is currently looking into some aspects of his case. - See more at: LINK
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:28 pm to The Bruce
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How do you have a fire and not notice a body in it?
Charred bone fragments were found in three different locations.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:29 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Please provide the logic to this, because it simply isn't true. She could have been murdered by a third party and the cops used to opportunity to not just make their humiliation go away, but to keep themselves from having to pay a $36 million stipend. Just like they did the first time. They used the circumstance for their own agenda.
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Only in the most cynical mind would someone believe this. The jury did not.
Clearly, some of them did.
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You got a link where a juror said he believed the cops conspired with a third party murderer as you said was possible?
This isn't necessary. That's not what they were there to determine.
Simply your contention I wanted you to prove.
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:29 pm to brmark70816
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I thought both burn sites were on his property, but one was further away. It was off site? Like off his property?
This is why this is fruitless. There were 3 burn sites, one was off of his property down the road where bones were found.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Something Strang noted in LINK video is that an expert came in and talked about the fire and the bones.
The fire could not have burned the body in the state it was in on the Avery property.
PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO EVERYONE.
The fire could not have burned the body in the state it was in on the Avery property.
PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO EVERYONE.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:36 pm to 13SaintTiger
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New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)
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I thought both burn sites were on his property, but one was further away. It was off site? Like off his property?
This is why this is fruitless. There were 3 burn sites, one was off of his property down the road where bones were found.
and the fire the type of fire on the avery property could not have got hot enough to burn the body like it did.
And he was acquitted by the jury on that charge. In other words, they didn't charge him for burning the body.
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:42 pm to I B Freeman
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Simply your contention I wanted you to prove.
I have no insight into what they were thinking. What is clear, is that at some point at least seven jurors thought he was not guilty. There are very few options when they hold that belief, and police involvement is all but guaranteed if you don't think he is guilty.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 6:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:03 am to hiltacular
Yeah, that was on the Today show yesterday morning.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:11 am to tiggerthetooth
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And he was acquitted by the jury on that charge. In other words, they didn't charge him for burning the body.
The juror is claiming they did that on purpose to give him a better chance at appeal.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:16 am to Big Scrub TX
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The juror is claiming they did that on purpose to give him a better chance at appeal.
Right. I heard the same, which means they wanted to give him a chance and just get out of there at the same time.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:33 am to hiltacular
This is going to get interesting.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:38 am to JBeam
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This is going to get interesting.
We can only hope. At least for the sake of justice.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:15 pm to tiggerthetooth
I thought that all along.
No way in hell that bonfire gets hot enough to burn a body like that. There would have been WAY more body fragments lying around.
The whole thing is just absolutely ABSURD.
I can't get over the dude on the stand about calling in the license plate. That was SHADY as F.
No way in hell that bonfire gets hot enough to burn a body like that. There would have been WAY more body fragments lying around.
The whole thing is just absolutely ABSURD.
I can't get over the dude on the stand about calling in the license plate. That was SHADY as F.
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