re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)

5 episodes in.

The most damning thing to me so far is the policeman that calls in the plates and himself identifies it as a Toyota.

I don't feel like that got enough play.

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5 episodes in. The most damning thing to me so far is the policeman that calls in the plates and himself identifies it as a Toyota. I don't feel like that got enough play.

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Not only that, but a "99 Toyota".

yea I just finished episode 9

I can't help but feel terrible for Brendan.

"mom, what does inconsistent mean?"

I don't see how ANY of his "confession" could have been admissible

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Bobby Dassey or Scott Tadych accidentally shot her on the property trying to test out their guns before hunting

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Here is another interesting theory I just read. It's definitely plausible that Scott was involved IMO.

Just looking at the evidence we do have have, its clear that Teresa was, without a doubt, moved twice. Once, right after she'd been killed, in her own car. The collected pool of blood near a head wound in the back of her own car verifies this. There is no other reason to put her in the trunk unless you're moving her.

The 2nd move is when the ashes were placed at Avery's bonfire pit. The fact that woman's bones can be found at the quarry, and in a burn barrel behind the Janda's house, suggests that the order of events had to have been:

-Teresa is killed by a gun shot to the head. The leftover blood in her trunk reinforces this, as well as the forensic evidence found on the pieces of her skull that were identified in the burn pile.

-Her body is taken to the quarry, where it is initially burned inside the Janda burn barrel.

-The Rav4 is transported to the edge of the Avery property, where it is barely covered up, and left there.

-The perps then transport those ashes to Avery's bonfire, knowing he had ashes there. If the suspects are who I think they are (Steven's brother + Scott), that would explain how they knew he was having a bonfire (they live at the same compound) and that dumping it in those bonfire ashes was a perfect dumping spot. They also had a motive to screw over Steven.

The fact that female bones were found at the quarry and in the burn barrel at Janda's suggests the quarry was the original burn location, and the barrel was the transport method to Avery's bonfire. The bones are basically a breadcrumb trail. The exact timeline doesn't even have to be that very same night, mind you. Some things could've happened over a period of time.

What we do know is that on 11/3, 3 days after Teresa goes missing, Detective Andy Coulbern puts in a dispatch call matching Teresa's car, two days before the vehicle is discovered. He has no explanation for this event. Here's the problem - if Coulbern admits he found the vehicle on 11/3rd on Avery's property without a search warrant, then its considered an illegal search, and the vehicle cannot be used as evidence in the trial. Remember, the vehicle was not found until the Avery's gave their consent that the junk yard could be searched, thus making its discovery legal.
This is where, I believe, two things happen.

1) Coulbern tells someone in Manitowoc Sheriff County's office, most likely Lenk, that he has found Teresa's car on Steven Avery's property. This would explain why when Coulbern leaves to take a look at Steven's property, he never goes to the other place he was destined to go to that night on 11/3rd. Its likely at this point when Coulbern & Lenk decide to crack open the 1985 DNA evidence of Steven Avery's, and plant his blood throughout the vehicle. Again - we know that Avery's 1985 DNA Evidence is at Manitowoc County Sheriff's Office and was opened up illegally and placed back in its container, with a puncture hole on the top of Steven's blood vile - so we have factual evidence that someone accessed it illegally.

2) Someone removes her rear license plate, and stashes it nearby but this happens AFTER Coulbern calls in the car to dispatch on 11/3. This is important because, going by the call to dispatch, I believe the license plates were still on the vehicle, and that he was directly looking at the rear plates (where he can see its clearly a RAV4) when he made that call. Now, whether he took them off or it was removed by the actual suspects afterwards is debatable. If I was a detective, I would want to leave the vehicle alone for a few days and observe who might go to it, hoping i'd catch my suspect.

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What we do know is that on 11/3, 3 days after Teresa goes missing, Detective Andy Coulbern puts in a dispatch call matching Teresa's car, two days before the vehicle is discovered. He has no explanation for this event. Here's the problem - if Coulbern admits he found the vehicle on 11/3rd on Avery's property without a search warrant, then its considered an illegal search, and the vehicle cannot be used as evidence in the trial. Remember, the vehicle was not found until the Avery's gave their consent that the junk yard could be searched, thus making its discovery legal.

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Is anyone else surprised that all of these phone recordings actually managed to survive?

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and I just don't see how anyone could convict based on the story that the prosecution laid out there is no way that she was raped and had her throat slit on the bed then shot in the garage no way there would be DNA and blood everywhere

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Yet by the time the prosecutors decided not to call Brendan as a witness, and the charges attributed to Avery due to his deposition were dropped, that picture had already been planted in the jury's minds. You can't unring the bell.

and another that I don't know if its getting enough attention, but without detection limits, analytical results are literally worthless

I analyze analytical data every day and it was astonishing to me when the chemist said that the FBI tests established and reported no detection limits

so there is no way that the FBI tests for EDTA are worth anything

I don't recall the chemist being a hick.

I remember the lab tech who did the DNA testing had the "Why isn't my son starting?" haircut

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I remember the lab tech who did the DNA testing had the "Why isn't my son starting?" haircut

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and this

if her blank was contaminated, the rest of the results should have been deemed worthless

all of the prosecutions analytical data was literally worthless

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The documentary makers have been working on this for 10+ years so I'm sure they saved tons of stuff.

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I mean intra-sheriff's dept recordings at the time of the trial.