re: Netflix indicted on kiddy porn charges in Texas for airing "Cuties"

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display when they see adults defending kiddie porn because Hollywood told them it is art.

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Subject material doesn’t mean that the subject is pro- said material.

Where’s the outrage for horror movies? Are horror movies saying that it’s good to murder people?

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Follow that logic. War movies often convey their anti-war message by showing the viewer how awful war is. It's possible that this movie is not what you think, considering what the people who've actually seen it are saying about it.

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Wow. Posters here now trying to frame Cuties as some sort of public service announcement. Incredible.

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These asshats would try to sue Howard the duck these days

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Didn’t Howard the Duck have a beastiality scene?

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Guess you guys are in favor of poultry porn.

Call the D.A.

It’s “art,” man. It’s also supposed to “shock” parents into caring about their children spending so much time on the internet. Give me a freaking break. What parents should be shocked about is that this garbage passes for entertainment and that there are people so obsessed with their hip hop and movies that they will defend blatant exploitation of children.

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Wow. Posters here now trying to frame Cuties as some sort of public service announcement. Incredible.

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Interesting considering in the meta-view that is essentially what it is exemplified by the main character's arc which ends with her coming to the realization that the behavior is very bad.

I will entertain the legitimate argument that the actors were exploited no matter the reasoning. Shows/movies that deal with this age drinking or doing drugs don't require them to actually drink or do drugs. I will be less moved by this argument if it is selective outrage that hasn't previously been aimed at shows like Toddlers and Tiaras as well as many elementary/junior high cheer squads and dance schools.

Thematically this is an after school special type movie with a positive message to the gender/age group, it isn't some bizarre French art-house movie glorifying the exploitation of children.

I have zero problem with anyone opposing the movie on religious or moral grounds and boycotting or canceling based on this, the subject matter is indeed difficult to explore. However, child pornography is a term of art and this doesn't meet the standard in my legal opinion in any state I am licensed in. I also think it is poor form and for many hypocritical to base their opinion in part or in whole on the objectively incorrect facts Ted Cruz and others have attributed to it.

I further think even given the rather modest levels of decorum of TD calling someone a pedophile in the manner that has been done in this thread is beyond the pale. While it might be cutesy and ring out in certain echo chambers what it does outside those spaces it remove your credibility for engaging in adult conversations.

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Follow that logic. War movies often convey their anti-war message by showing the viewer how awful war is. It's possible that this movie is not what you think, considering what the people who've actually seen it are saying about it.

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Cope.

32 years ago a movie was banned where I lived in Huntsville, AL. It was delayed, boycotted, and denounced by every Christian I knew. I just knew it was the worst movie ever made because of the awful way it depicted our lord and savior.

Ten years later I actually watched the movie. And I was ashamed of myself for falling in line with all the others whom I trusted to make decisions for me. I’m sure Fox News commentators, Ted Cruz, and most of you all are doing the same thing. So I don’t fault you for standing up against “Hollywood pushing their social agenda”.

The Last Temptation of Christ is a phenomenal movie. And it didn’t damage my soul or make me a heathen for watching it.

This movie isn’t that movie. But the reception it’s received is like watching a rerun. A whole bunch of people repeated what they’ve heard, plus added their own personal opinions about how shitty society had become.

Now I’ve got to get back to indoctrinating our utes to my left wing liberal agenda.

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And you grab your lube and go celebrate that same beauty pageant . See how that works?

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If your goal was to come off as a creep, it worked.

Again, you don't understand the most salient point here. I'll walk you slowly through this.

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Saying that people have the right to make disturbing art doesn't mean that you're in favor of disturbing behavior.

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I never suggested any such thing. I simply asked who the frick at Netflix thought it would be a good idea to distribute such "art"?

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And it's pretty ridiculous to grab your pitchfork on this .

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Grabbing a pitchfork implies mob violence. I thought we were discussing an issue rationally on a message board. Which we actually were doing before you went on hyperbolic overdrive and started building a strawman rather than discuss the issue at hand like a rational person.

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we have thousands of threads about movies involving gruesome rape, torture, and murder.

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See , but those actors weren't actually raped, tortured or murdered. These eleven year old girls WERE sexually exploited in the most destructive, long term, forever-on-film-for-mass-consumption way. And they are NOT old enough to consent. THAT is the issue. Their fricking age. Just because you label it art and give it a redeeming storyline doesn't make kiddie camel toe/twerking/simulated sex any less repulsive. In critiquing the sexualization of children, the filmmakers sexualized children. FACT.

If we start with the premise that adults should protect CHILDREN from hyper-sexualization the only conclusion we can reach is that the film went too far. Right to the edge of what pornography is or isn't. I'd say from the short clips on Tucker it stopped just short. This close. You can make that determination with one minute of non-edited trash excerpts.

TLDR-putting the label "art" on child exploitation doesn't change the fact that it's child exploitation.

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I thought we were discussing an issue rationally on a message board

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Do you have a link to such a message board? That sounds nice.

Considering only one person on this thread has seen the movie, and that his opinion was basically dismissed out-of-hand, no one here is saying anything remotely rational. Judging this movie on a two minute trailer, which 99.9% of people who have an opinion on this have absolutely done (and which includes all the people here who constantly bitch about mob mentality on the internet, of course), sounds like a pretty good example of internet pitchfork mob stuff. Doesn't matter how rationally you argue your points; we're almost all just of bunch of tards arguing about something we haven't seen, absolutely showing our asses by pretending to be confident.