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Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:41 am to dewster
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Entertaining movie, but there were a lot of details that prevented me from suspending belief
Like the part where they brought dinosaurs back to life
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:45 am to fleaux
The more I think about it, the more I liked the movie.
It was a perfect summer blockbuster.
It was a perfect summer blockbuster.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:51 am to boXerrumble
Put Kate Upton in the sequel with her running around


Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:59 am to biggsc
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Put Kate Upton in the sequel with her running around
No need forr a second mosasaur,
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:27 am to biggsc
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Put Kate Upton in the sequel with her running around
She's the one who ate Indominus at the end
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:41 am to PapaPogey
If scientists could tweak DNA as easily as they do in these movies, the island would be populated with Kate Uptons.
And I would go to that amusement park.
And I would go to that amusement park.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:45 am to Fewer Kilometers
I mean, they were making glow in the dark pigs and monkies 20 years ago.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:00 am to athenslife101
It was an entertaining film as far as eye candy and action, but I never bought in to this world the same way I did the first film's world. The first film had enough plausibility at the heart of it to make you believe the over-the-top stuff. This one didn't. Therefore, I'm going to pick it apart.
In JP, you had everything go wrong because one guy was a fricktard. You could trace the movie's main conflict (dino's get out and wreck shop) to Nedry. He did something behind the backs of everyone and it backfired. It was a believable plot device that allowed me to go with the flow of the rest of the movie.
In JW, it was a colossal frick-up on the part of literally hundreds of people at every level of the organization. It was impossible for me to believe that the park was built and run by the same people who were capable of making such terrible decisions. Everyone from the guy that fell in the raptor cage or the guy that worked the bubble-ride, to the park manager and the park owner. They were all idiots and there is no way they could have created a successful park, that up until now, we can only assume had a relatively clean safety record as far as escaped dinos are concerned.
Had they learned nothing about safety since the first one? The cage to the I-rex had one door. The cage to the raptors had two. Why? Why would you have no fail-safe on the I-rex cage when you know it's the baddest dude around? You knwo the raptors pose a threat, so one door is open and the other is closed. The I-rex could just bust through one door and be done with it.
No kill-switch on the dinos? You have the power to combine 80 different DNAs and make the dino cloackable, but you don't have the power to inject an implant in the dino that can be activated and kill it?
Bryce, the park manager, as in the person whose job it is to know what the hell is as going on with the entire park and island, had zero idea about what was going on with the parks's largest investment. How was Wu able to keep everything secret from her? How did she not know about the military/Ingen cooperation? Same with the park owner.
I could go on about the ineptitude of pretty much everyone involved. The writer's inability to make believable characters made it hard for me to buy in to the rest of the world. Maybe I'm just over-thinking it and bitching to bitch. Like I said, I enjoyed it, but it wasn't as believable as the first one, which is what made that one so great.
In JP, you had everything go wrong because one guy was a fricktard. You could trace the movie's main conflict (dino's get out and wreck shop) to Nedry. He did something behind the backs of everyone and it backfired. It was a believable plot device that allowed me to go with the flow of the rest of the movie.
In JW, it was a colossal frick-up on the part of literally hundreds of people at every level of the organization. It was impossible for me to believe that the park was built and run by the same people who were capable of making such terrible decisions. Everyone from the guy that fell in the raptor cage or the guy that worked the bubble-ride, to the park manager and the park owner. They were all idiots and there is no way they could have created a successful park, that up until now, we can only assume had a relatively clean safety record as far as escaped dinos are concerned.
Had they learned nothing about safety since the first one? The cage to the I-rex had one door. The cage to the raptors had two. Why? Why would you have no fail-safe on the I-rex cage when you know it's the baddest dude around? You knwo the raptors pose a threat, so one door is open and the other is closed. The I-rex could just bust through one door and be done with it.
No kill-switch on the dinos? You have the power to combine 80 different DNAs and make the dino cloackable, but you don't have the power to inject an implant in the dino that can be activated and kill it?
Bryce, the park manager, as in the person whose job it is to know what the hell is as going on with the entire park and island, had zero idea about what was going on with the parks's largest investment. How was Wu able to keep everything secret from her? How did she not know about the military/Ingen cooperation? Same with the park owner.
I could go on about the ineptitude of pretty much everyone involved. The writer's inability to make believable characters made it hard for me to buy in to the rest of the world. Maybe I'm just over-thinking it and bitching to bitch. Like I said, I enjoyed it, but it wasn't as believable as the first one, which is what made that one so great.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:15 am to BottomlandBrew
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Everyone from the guy that fell in the raptor cage or the guy that worked the bubble-ride
New hires and teen workers are unbelievable for a theme park? Quite a reach. It's such a reach it almost invalidates some of your more legitimate complaints.
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No kill-switch on the dinos? You have the power to combine 80 different DNAs and make the dino cloackable, but you don't have the power to inject an implant in the dino that can be activated and kill it?
There would be no movie.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:52 pm to BottomlandBrew
I keep seeing people talking about how there is nowhere to go with a sequel and about how they were disappointed at the lack of danger the tourist were in at the end or the lack of interaction between the tourist and some of the bigger dinos, but I think these two things are related.
If we think about it for a minute, I don't recall the tourists having any interaction with the IRex or the raptors. In fact, I don't think the tourists even knew about the IRex. The only dinos the tourists had any interaction with was the pterodactyls. Maybe this is intentional. If this is the case, I can see them opening up the park again and covering up the entire IRex incident. They can say that there was an incident with the pterodactyl enclosure and cover up all the rest. They will have to figure out a way to get the TRex back into its enclosure, but remember IRex was eaten by the water dino, so there's no evidence of him. I think they can find a creative way to sweep the real incident under the rug without the tourists knowing and open the park back up for a sequel.
If we think about it for a minute, I don't recall the tourists having any interaction with the IRex or the raptors. In fact, I don't think the tourists even knew about the IRex. The only dinos the tourists had any interaction with was the pterodactyls. Maybe this is intentional. If this is the case, I can see them opening up the park again and covering up the entire IRex incident. They can say that there was an incident with the pterodactyl enclosure and cover up all the rest. They will have to figure out a way to get the TRex back into its enclosure, but remember IRex was eaten by the water dino, so there's no evidence of him. I think they can find a creative way to sweep the real incident under the rug without the tourists knowing and open the park back up for a sequel.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:09 pm to OMLandshark
quote:well, 2 things:
But how do the raptors know they're attacking the right people? Dogs probably aren't going to massacre the innocents in the same way a raptor can
1, they do make a point to have them smell the target (the chunk of meat from the I Rex in the movie. In theory, anything you could find that's connected to your target). They then home in on that target relentlessly.
2, if you plan on using raptors in an attack, you probably don't care about innocents; you might assume anyone nearby is in cahoots but just not target #1; or you just don't care about collateral damage. Kinda why the suggestion is so terrible to consider.
Also, shrinking the I Rex down to Raptor size- because it has advanced tracking abilities, and apparently advanced camouflage abilities. If a pack of Raptors is bad, this would be a pack of Raptor Magnum +P Hollowpoints
It's pretty damn far-fetched, I think it's the gratuitous "evil subplot" angle, and you shouldn't try to take it too seriously.
I mean, hell, Captain America Winter Soldier has fricking helicarriers as an ultimate weapon. We're talking 3 HUGELY expensive, big, lumbering airboats that could be taken out by a flurry of SAMs, or a single nuke to each if need be. They wouldn't last an afternoon once they attacked.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:51 pm to UpToPar
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, I don't recall the tourists having any reaction with the IRex or the raptors
I thought about this the other day. I understand why they didn't know about the IRex (brand new, still getting it ready) but the raptors seemed like they weren't part of the park at all. I understand they were being trained but they weren't in some kind of holding area where tourists could come and see them.
Irrelevant to the plot of the movie, just thought that was interesting (or intentional)
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:09 pm to theGarnetWay
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Irrelevant to the plot of the movie, just thought that was interesting (or intentional)
I think it was done intentionally. There was too great of an opportunity of some cool and intense scenes to have the IRex or raptors chasing down tourists to not include it. I think it was done intentionally so that they can cover it all up. The only thing that the tourists knew about was closing of some of the rides, the announcement over the load speakers to take shelter, and the flying dinos. It's conceivable that they could claim a breach of the flying dino exhibit and cover the rest up so they can reopen the park.
But, if they reopen the park, I think they are going to have to find a way to change things up and add a little more depth to the plot other than we created a new dino and he has escaped and is killing people. It would feel way too similar to this one.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:25 pm to BottomlandBrew
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No kill-switch on the dinos? You have the power to combine 80 different DNAs and make the dino cloackable, but you don't have the power to inject an implant in the dino that can be activated and kill it?
They said that if she got close enough to the perimeter the implant would do something and stop her, but she clawed it out.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:53 pm to theGarnetWay
quote:I dunno, there seemed to be a few couples wandering around on the upper railings outside the actual pit, with cameras. Maybe the raptors just weren't a big attraction. Because, you know, they aren't... BIG.
, I don't recall the tourists having any reaction with the IRex or the raptors
I thought about this the other day. I understand why they didn't know about the IRex (brand new, still getting it ready) but the raptors seemed like they weren't part of the park at all.
If Jurassic World is like Disney, then you have a large area and a limited amount of time. The mososaur/seaworld exhibit would be #1, other humongous critters would be next. A pack of man-sized raptors eating a pig would be way down on that list, unless you were in the mood to escape the crowds.
And again, there wasn't much pretense in this movie. It was blatantly fun, with a cool lead actor and lots of dinosaurs doing cool things. Hardly a hint of a bigger message or moral. There were people who had stated intentions, but I think that was just to give the audience a rooting interest on who should get eaten.
Chris Pratt wants to play with raptors because they're neat- lives.
D'Onofrio wants to weaponize them- chomp.
Baby sitter ignores kids- chomp
mother crying endlessly- chomp (oh, wait... but if only
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:57 pm to fleaux
quote:If I remember right, I paid over $10 for a pint of beer in Epcot over a decade ago. With inflation, a bigger park and a premium on cocktails, one can only imagine. Maybe $25 bucks apiece? More?
I want to know how much Jimmy Buffet had to pay for those two margaritas , to be protecting them like he did
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:03 pm to Scoob
I'm thinking that was over $100 worth of margaritas 
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:03 pm to Scoob
I still can tell if Dr. Wu was supposed to be bad or not. He certainly didn't come off as bad in the first one. In this one he just defended his position as saying "I just did what you asked me to" I guess it was a cliche bad guy move to fly away in the helicopter at the end.

Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:18 pm to theGarnetWay
my 2 issues
- she outruns the T-rex, which almsot caught them in the jeep in JP1. on foot. in heels
- the T-rex is now loose on the island (as well as a raptor). it almost played like it did its job, now it will amble back to the cage. there are still people there
- she outruns the T-rex, which almsot caught them in the jeep in JP1. on foot. in heels
- the T-rex is now loose on the island (as well as a raptor). it almost played like it did its job, now it will amble back to the cage. there are still people there
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