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Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:57 am to tigerfan84
“He’s got an ugly girlfriend.
Ugly girlfriend means he lacks confidence.”
Ugly girlfriend means he lacks confidence.”
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:08 am to FLTech
I gain five pounds every time that I watch this film, just from watching Pitt eat in every scene.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:16 am to Lsut81
part of that scene was adlib
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:18 am to kciDAtaE
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Entertaining movie for Hollywood, but not so much for baseball. I kept asking myself the entire movie if they were going to ignore the elite pitching staff when portraying this team as a bunch of misfits….yeah. They did.
They don't touch on it in the movie, but it is explained in the book. Even the big name pitchers (Zito, Hudson) were viewed as less desirable and picked up for cheap.
Beane's entire philosophy was getting players cheap, meaning that other teams didn't want them. Most of what the movie showed was getting players that were over the hill and on their way out of the game. But the attitude also applied to players in the draft and in the minors.
Quoting from the book...
The team's second ace, Tim Hudson, was a short right-handed pitcher who couldn't get himself drafted at all in 1996, after his junior year in college, and then not until sixth round of the 1997 draft.
The team's third ace, Barry Zito, had been spat upon by both the Texas Rangers, who took him in the third round of the 1998 draft but declined to pay him the $50,000 required to sign him, and the San Diego Padres, for whom Zito privately auditioned and badly wanted to play. The Padres told Zito he didn't throw hard enough to make it in the big leagues. The Oakland A's disagreed and drafted him with the ninth pick of the 1999 draft.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:22 am to FLTech
Me whenever I see this movie on. It's a top 5 sports movie for me.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:33 am to SouthPlains
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Billy Beane never won much of anything
This. Moneyball has no real payoff.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:56 am to Pax Regis
The scene with the scouts at the table- theyre all like 80, some dipping at the table. Showing the old vs the new ways
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:24 am to tigerfan84
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:26 am to illuminatic
Top 5 rewatch movie for me
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:29 am to Pax Regis
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This. Moneyball has no real payoff.
Except that now every team in baseball operates that way after seeing the freaking Oakland A’s use it and almost be successful. Teams with higher basements have had more success with it. They were the Guinea pig.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:32 am to LSUMJ
What I picked up from the scouts is they’re the biggest fans of players.
The way they talk about players is no different than two regular fans.
Love the scene where Billie asks if a guy is a good hitter, why doesn’t he hit good.
Then a scout says he’ll come into form during the season.
So he’s not hitting well in the minors, but he’s gonna improve when he faces pitching at the highest level in the world?
The way they talk about players is no different than two regular fans.
Love the scene where Billie asks if a guy is a good hitter, why doesn’t he hit good.
Then a scout says he’ll come into form during the season.
So he’s not hitting well in the minors, but he’s gonna improve when he faces pitching at the highest level in the world?
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:43 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Once I found out that Art Howe wasn't really as fat as Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Art Howe was upset that they had him portrayed by a fat Philip Seymour Hoffman...
What’s really funny is that Peter Brandt (Jonah Hill’s character) is based on Jon Depodesta, who didn’t want his name used in the movie. Here’s what he actually looks like:
Imagine that Aaron Sorkin is making a movie about the amazing job you and your boss did, and they cast Brad Pitt to play your boss and you get Jonah Hill.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:51 am to Fewer Kilometers
Hoffman as Howe really distracted me when I watched the movie.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:12 pm to teke184
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Being innovative only gets you so far if people eventually catch up.
That being said, the As making the playoffs multiple times, even with no league pennants, is still an accomplishment on their budget.
What they did changed baseball for sure. Managing the team based on statistics will work out over a 162 game season. The larger the sample size, the greater the accuracy of statistical analysis. So you can pick up the guy who isn't flashy, but has a great impact on your season. But when you need to win that one game and the guy gets 3 or 4 at bats, his 4 walks per 10 AB's doesn't translate to that one game necessarily. You have to have a mix of both. Some teams are doing that balance well now, and that's where the influence comes in. You can't purely rely on it though. Playoff baseball is just different.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:25 pm to Jon A thon
nah, good playoff teams are also good sabermetrics teams.
The A’s were also buying players in a budget, it’s not like Jason Gianni wouldn’t have made that team better.
They just didn’t want to pay him.
The A’s were also buying players in a budget, it’s not like Jason Gianni wouldn’t have made that team better.
They just didn’t want to pay him.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:07 pm to FLTech
Great movie, very underrated IMO.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:21 pm to teke184
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Beane and Ron Washington talking with the guy they want to be their new first baseman is a classic scene.
I will never not find it hilarious that Chris Pratt was playing Scott fricking Hatteberg during his Andy Dwyer days.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:29 pm to FLTech
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I can’t believe I have never heard of this movie.
Me neither.
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What a gem of a movie.
I think it is a top tier sports movie. Just the right balance of team building, stakes, comedy, the family bits - it just hits all the right notes. I still don't think of Pitt as much of a leading man, relatively speaking. He's a supporting actor trapped in a leading man's body (which is a compliment of sorts), but between Moneyball and Benjamin Buttons, both of which he was expected to carry almost the entire movie and did, I give credit where credit is due.
Jonah Hill helped carry some of the burden in Moneyball, but not much.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:38 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I always wonder why Pitt kept spitting out his popcorn?
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