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re: LOST "The Candidate" S6 E14 (Jack/Locke-centric)

Posted on 5/5/10 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Geaux17
Member since Jan 2006
1659 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 9:39 pm to
What if Kate is kind of Jacob's "wild card". Maybe touching her means MIB can't kill her or that she is in fact a candidate?

Maybe Jacob wants everyone, mostly MIB, to think she is not a candidate, so that when MIB either tries to kill her or round up the candidates he will be caught off guard by the fact that either:

A) He can't kill her

or

B) He does in fact need her

IDK - random thought
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46947 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

What if Kate is kind of Jacob's "wild card". Maybe touching her means MIB can't kill her or that she is in fact a candidate?


Kate's name was crossed out in the cave but not on the wheel. However, MIB did tell Claire she didn't need her.

quote:

A) He can't kill her


He needed her to get Jack off the island.

quote:

B) He does in fact need her


He does need her.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14846 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

do you actually watch the show, or just have it playing off in the background while you battle the daily crossword puzzle?



I do multitask, but not very well I'm afraid.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 10:20 pm to
One other problem with that map is when Sayid starts down the beach after he tortured Sawyer in Season 1, he walks down the beach until he comes to the rope that connects to the Looking Glass and follows it up into the woods. He would have surely seen the lighthouse on his way.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33864 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

but not very well I'm afraid.


sometimes you ask questions that just don't make sense. Which would be easy to disregard if all of your statements & questions were 'tard.

But usually, you seem to run with things and topics fairly well...then you pull a dumbass out of your pocket, makes me wonder if you were actually watching
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14846 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

But usually, you seem to run with things and topics fairly well...then you pull a dumbass out of your pocket, makes me wonder if you were actually watching



I watch it plenty, brother. You can trust me, just like you can trust fLocke.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33864 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

problem with that map


I also assumed that The Staff was much much closer to the survivors' camp. So I looked it up on Lostpedia, and it said it was about a day and a half from the camp on the western side of the island. Then I looked up The Flame, and Lostpedia said it was NE of New Otherton - about a day and a half away from the survivors' camp

so, someone's wrong
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46947 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

One other problem with that map is when Sayid starts down the beach after he tortured Sawyer in Season 1, he walks down the beach until he comes to the rope that connects to the Looking Glass and follows it up into the woods. He would have surely seen the lighthouse on his way.


But at least he was able to go out in traditional arab fashion, with a bomb strapped to his chest.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14846 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

But at least he was able to go out in traditional arab fashion, with a bomb strapped to his chest.



Very true.
Posted by TotallyTigers
Champagnionship
Member since Nov 2004
2891 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

About the day and night thing. When the losties are cryimg on the beach its night, then cut to MIB and Clair when he says he is going to finish what he started and its the middle of the day.


Nope....just rewatched, and when they cut to MIB and Claire back on Hydra it's definitely night.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 12:12 am to
quote:

One other problem with that map is when Sayid starts down the beach after he tortured Sawyer in Season 1, he walks down the beach until he comes to the rope that connects to the Looking Glass and follows it up into the woods. He would have surely seen the lighthouse on his way.



Yeah, my theory is only candidates can see the Lighthouse when other candidates are around, and since Sayid was alone he should have been able to see it. But you're right in saying there is no way the Lighthouse could be there.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 12:17 am to
quote:

I also assumed that The Staff was much much closer to the survivors' camp. So I looked it up on Lostpedia, and it said it was about a day and a half from the camp on the western side of the island. Then I looked up The Flame, and Lostpedia said it was NE of New Otherton - about a day and a half away from the survivors' camp



The Staff is about half a days walk from the camp, so I'd it is roughly in that area.
Posted by jimi311
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
580 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 1:18 am to
I have been reading a few other boards and reviews and I gotta say am I the only one more pissed about Jeff Fahey's character's death than Jin, Sun or Sayid?

Dude got hit by a door and killed him. Felt like I was watching a no name character from The Abyss get killed.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 1:26 am to
quote:

Dude got hit by a door and killed him. Felt like I was watching a no name character from The Abyss get killed.


i wouldn't be surprisd if he is alive. this is Lost after all.
Posted by CornDogCologne
Mental Defective
Member since Nov 2007
8914 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 2:25 am to
If Lapidus doesn't have a crazy "just in time to save the day" re-appearance, I'll eat my shoe.

Unlike Sayid going out in true Arab fashion and the shot of the Kwon's hands drifting apart in the sub, there is no on screen confirmation that Frank is dead.

And I'm sure that someone has already covered this, but I was surprised that Sun didn't insist that Jin leave the sub so he could get back to the mainland and raise their daughter. Granted, he probably wouldn't have listened, but I thought they should have addressed that whole "lil' Kwon growing up without parents" thing before they drowned.
This post was edited on 5/6/10 at 2:30 am
Posted by LSUshad
Member since Sep 2008
16155 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:02 am to
Man, what a good episode.

I hope Job the Lawnmower Man isn't dead.


And Jacob isn't dead. It's God vs. Satan.

This post was edited on 5/6/10 at 3:04 am
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62670 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 6:33 am to
quote:

i dont think water is his weakness i just see it as in smoke form he needs land to move about - think of like the hoverboard in back to the future 2



This is EXACTLY how I thought about it.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108301 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:11 am to
I think he just wanted them to think water was his weakness. I think its irrelevant. He needs the candidates to die and then he can go but he can't directly kill them. That was pretty clear from The Candidate.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:12 am to
Locke had to have a lot to happen for his plan to work. Jack had to get on the sub somehow and take the switched backpack. Kate had to get shot to get Jack to open the backpack, etc. That is a lot for Locke to risk.

Others have theorized that this whole sequence has happened before (maybe 108 times). Do you think Locke knows what will (mostly) happen if he does certain things - because he has tried them before? Almost like "GroundHog Day?"
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108301 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:17 am to
quote:

The Staff is about half a days walk from the camp, so I'd it is roughly in that area.


This is akin to discussing where Darth Vader's quarters are on the death star relative to the mens' room. Nerdtastic.
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