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re: LOST "Everyone Loves Hugo" S6.E12 (Hurley-centric)
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:19 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:19 pm to Antonio Moss
OK - I never post in these threads but I do read them. I can't take it anymore.
Just because he said that doesn't literally mean he is using his body. Jacob took away his human form. Not to use for himself. Who knows who is correct, I just never thought anything other than this and I got tired of everyone thinking Jacob was literally using MIB's body.
have a nice day - back to lurking...
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"He stole by body, my humanity" If what MIB said was true about Jacob stealing his body, then a young MIB would actually look like Jacob.
Just because he said that doesn't literally mean he is using his body. Jacob took away his human form. Not to use for himself. Who knows who is correct, I just never thought anything other than this and I got tired of everyone thinking Jacob was literally using MIB's body.
have a nice day - back to lurking...
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Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:19 pm to joshnorris14
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You're wrong. Desmond was on the island in the original time line not on the plane.
but in the original time line the losties traveled back in time and altered things as far back as the 1950's. little things they did could have been the difference between Desmond meting penny and sailing in the race versus him not meeting penny pre-815 flight. (butterfly effect)
edited (thanks joshnorris14)... this is what happens when i try to convey my thoughts while answering emails at the same time.
This post was edited on 4/14/10 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:21 pm to Rohan
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Just because he said that doesn't literally mean he is using his body. Jacob took away his human form. Not to use for himself.
that's how i took it too.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:22 pm to ashy larry
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but in the original time line the losties traveled back in time and altered things as far back as the 1950's. little things that they did could have made changes in the alt timeline that could have kept desmond from meeting penny and deciding to sail in the race which caused him to crash.
Lol, what you are saying is that the incident caused the time split, but at first you said the alt time line was just "what if 815 never crashed?".
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:23 pm to The Eric
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also... who is all up for a rewatch when the show is over? i say we cover 2 or 3 episodes a week?
I'm down. Before S6 started I rewatched 1 and 2 and loved it. If there was a group (Like the Dharma book club, haha) that would rewatch a few a week and have these threads that would be freakin' sweet. To have this whole group of LOST fans analyzing things we missed in the early seasons, knowing what we'll know at the end of the whole series, would be pretty awesome IMO.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:29 pm to joshnorris14
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Lol, what you are saying is that the incident caused the time split, but at first you said the alt time line was just "what if 815 never crashed?".
yeah my post made no sense. hopefully it is a little better now.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:32 pm to Tiger Ryno
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that is entirely my point. its clear its the same kid. they need to drop the haircolor bit.
My bad for earlier since I was under the impression that the kid from the Substitute was like 11, and the kid in this one was like 14 and had brown hair, therefore being portrayed by a different actor.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:33 pm to Rohan
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Just because he said that doesn't literally mean he is using his body. Jacob took away his human form. Not to use for himself. Who knows who is correct, I just never thought anything other than this and I got tired of everyone thinking Jacob was literally using MIB's body.
have a nice day - back to lurking...
Because there is absolutely no evidence of god like creatures taking the human form of another in the history of LOST
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:39 pm to ashy larry
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I still think the bomb caused the split, but only happened in the original time line. However the alt time line is the result of "WHAT IF 815 never crashed". i.e. no plane crash, no losties trying to blow up the island. Chang still has his hand because in the alt timeline, b/c he never met the losties. I think Chang would have remembered Hurley from this Korean War
They still went back in time. People really need to quit putting other time travel rules into their LOST time traveling theories. "Whatever Happened, Happened" and course correction are the main rules of LOST time travel. We are currently seeing course correction in progress by showing that regardless of the location, it is destiny that all these people have personal relationships with one another and are destined to go back to the Island in some form.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:43 pm to ashy larry
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but in the original time line the losties traveled back in time and altered things as far back as the 1950's. little things they did could have been the difference between Desmond meting penny and sailing in the race versus him not meeting penny pre-815 flight. (butterfly effect)
They didn't alter anything. Locke always met Richard in the past and he took interest in him at an early age. He met the Monster in the form of Christian Shepherd before Richard landed on the Island since the statue was still intact. Widmore helped guide Locke to the Island originally through Matthew Abaddon by insisting he go on a Walkabout. When Locke's plane crashed, Widmore knew that 815 crashed on the Island. They didn't change anything. I am still stunned that people don't get "Whatever Happened, Happened" rule yet.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 4:49 pm to OMLandshark
if we are gonna do a rewatch Lost we do need to have a good name...
Dharma Book Club is now a candidate
I also nominate
Geronimo Jackson Roadies
Dharma Book Club is now a candidate
I also nominate
Geronimo Jackson Roadies
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:01 pm to The Eric
Oh, and to the people who say that Hurley is a bad replacement for Jacob, I think this episode is a good way to point out his favorable qualities as leader. And people didn't listen to him because he was able to talk to Jacob (they all knew he was lying), but because they trusted his judgement.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:08 pm to OMLandshark
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but because they trusted his judgement.
Did they really though? I know you've rewatched it and I haven't, so help me out here. Didn't Jack say something about not caring if he was right or not, but just wanting to get things over with (or something to that effect)? Also Sun wrote did we make a mistake? And Lapidus said yes I think. Even if he didn't, that's 2 of the 3 that followed that didn't necessarily trust him.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:11 pm to WG_Dawg
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Did they really though? I know you've rewatched it and I haven't, so help me out here. Didn't Jack say something about not caring if he was right or not, but just wanting to get things over with (or something to that effect)? Also Sun wrote did we make a mistake? And Lapidus said yes I think. Even if he didn't, that's 2 of the 3 that followed that didn't necessarily trust him.
Well they trusted his judgement more than Richard's. And I don't think Jack said anything like that, just the fact that he no longer trusts his own judgement anymore and is letting Hurley lead from now on. They were going to meet Smokie face to face to where their apprehension is completely understandable.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:13 pm to OMLandshark
jack pretty much said that he trusted hurley and that he was tired aof always trying to fix things... sometimes you cant just fix something.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:18 pm to OMLandshark
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Oh, and to the people who say that Hurley is a bad replacement for Jacob, I think this episode is a good way to point out his favorable qualities as leader. And people didn't listen to him because he was able to talk to Jacob (they all knew he was lying), but because they trusted his judgement.
Meh. He only got 3 people to listen at best. Richard and Ben gave him the finger. Sun wants off the Island, not for the plane to get blown up. Lapidus is a pilot; he isn't gonna destroy his baby. Jack is loopy.
Hurley may get lucky with his decision, but blowing up Flocke's exit strategy makes a lot more sense than walking into it...literally.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:19 pm to lsumatt
just watched Live together die alone part 1 and about to cue up part 2. things are getting good. Desmond's story is coming into focus. Hopefully Michael will be dead soon.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:30 pm to lsumatt
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Hurley may get lucky with his decision, but blowing up Flocke's exit strategy makes a lot more sense than walking into it...literally.
Maybe those who go to the plane to blow it up end up blowing themselves up...MIB's real plan could be to have the remaining candidates kill themselves (because he is not able to according to the rules). Once all the remaining candidates are off the board (and Jacob being dead), only then can MIB escape the island....the really long con.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:32 pm to Decatur
that makes a ton of sense. MIB has to get them to kill themselves. after all, he believes that human nature is totally corruptable so that would totally proove his theory if they all killed each other.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:40 pm to Tiger Ryno
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that makes a ton of sense. MIB has to get them to kill themselves. after all, he believes that human nature is totally corruptable so that would totally proove his theory if they all killed each other.
i made this prediction probably 5 or 6 pages back...
he doesnt have a use for the plane, he is trying to get everyone in a fight so they all die all while he is waiting at the donkey wheel for the quick escape as soon as the candidates are gone.
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