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re: LOST "Everyone Loves Hugo" S6.E12 (Hurley-centric)
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:41 pm to Decatur
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:41 pm to Decatur
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MIB's real plan could be to have the remaining candidates kill themselves (because he is not able to according to the rules). Once all the remaining candidates are off the board (and Jacob being dead), only then can MIB escape the island....the really long con.
This is true and I didn't think dynamite was the best option here (especially the way llana was carrying it around like a bread basket). But dismantling the plane is still a good idea on the surface.
And while I am not a big fan of Hurley's decision-making process, who in the hell is Richard to snub Hurley? 12 hours ago you were ready to kill yourself and then join Locke until Jack and Hurley stopped you. Now you know what to do again?
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Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:48 pm to The Eric
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i made this prediction probably 5 or 6 pages back...
oops
It kind of makes sense when you consider what Michael told Hurley.
This post was edited on 4/14/10 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:52 pm to Tiger Ryno
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that makes a ton of sense. MIB has to get them to kill themselves. after all, he believes that human nature is totally corruptable so that would totally proove his theory if they all killed each other.
I agree with this, except I think that they have created a closeness where the won't "kill eachother" (except maybe Sayid and Claire, but they don't really count).
Now they might accidentally die (e.g. dynamite) but that doesn't really prove MIB's point. Although it does get him what he needs.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 5:54 pm to lsumatt
Wow, just watching Live Together Die Alone Part 2 and Desmond is reading the letter Penny left for him in his book.
"All we really need to survive is one person who really loves us"
Seems like everything is heading this direction now at the end of it all. Cool foreshadowing.
"All we really need to survive is one person who really loves us"
Seems like everything is heading this direction now at the end of it all. Cool foreshadowing.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 9:12 pm to The Eric
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that makes a ton of sense. MIB has to get them to kill themselves. after all, he believes that human nature is totally corruptable so that would totally proove his theory if they all killed each other.
i made this prediction probably 5 or 6 pages back...
sounds pretty stupid to me. who kills the last candidate remaining? Flocke banking on the lone survivor to commit suicide?
This post was edited on 4/14/10 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 4/14/10 at 11:12 pm to vorenus23
Just got a theory that makes enough sense to me it may be a SPOILER...
I think Widmore gets Desmond to split the timelines somehow. The bomb at end of S5 has nothing to do with the split timelines. Everything that has happened happened, and the alt-timeline people can still experience it. Desmond experienced the alt-timeline, knows everything will be fine and that he'll meet Penny again. That is why he is not afraid.
Plausible?
I think Widmore gets Desmond to split the timelines somehow. The bomb at end of S5 has nothing to do with the split timelines. Everything that has happened happened, and the alt-timeline people can still experience it. Desmond experienced the alt-timeline, knows everything will be fine and that he'll meet Penny again. That is why he is not afraid.
Plausible?
Posted on 4/15/10 at 6:50 am to Decatur
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I wonder if the kid will have red hair next time we see him...just to keeps things consistently inconsistent.
I'm with you on this. To completely discount the difference in hair color based strictly on a casting call description found on Lostpedia is quite naive. On a show notorious for it's metaphors/symbols/foreshadowing where almost EVERY detail seems to matter, some of you actually think that obvious contrast was just some sort of oversight? That the producers/writers/director don't understand lighting and shadows and how they translate to film?
Or that on a show where light vs. dark is such a huge theme, that a character with light hair in one scene, then dark hair the next won't evoke some sort of theories based on that imagery? Or that on a show that costs several million dollars per episode to shoot, that has been carefully crafted with every single detail purposefully placed, that the writers/creators/actors/crew have moved off the U.S. mainland and dedicated the last 6 years of their lives to create, that will likely be all their best life's work and the lasting legacy of their careers, that during the final season, with only 4 episodes left before quite possibly the most anticipated finale in television history decided to just fricking phone it in? You actually think NOW is the time to just poo-poo things like lighting and hair color? Get real.
The producers are absolutely aware of the contrast of the hair color. What that means is another story. Perhaps it is just to show 2 sides of the same character, whether it be young Jacob, MIB, or somebody else. I still think they're twins(Jacob and MIB). Just too much Jacob/Esau allusion, and I think in "Across the Sea" we'll find out like others have suggested that MIB is pissed at his mom because she favored Jacob, though he--MIB--was older.
I may be wrong. They may indeed be the same character. But I can't believe that the contrast in hair color was a mistake. And I won't accept a casting call description on Lostipedia as some sort of "proof." And besides, how else would they have done it? You think they would had 2 separate character descriptions? Besides the fact that that would be completely unnecessary, it would be too much information given for a show that tries so hard to protect it's secrecy.
This post was edited on 4/15/10 at 6:52 am
Posted on 4/15/10 at 7:09 am to Uncle Stu
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you think he's going to lift up the island like atlas?
Not literally, but I think you can draw a parallel between Atlas holding up the sky/heavens to protect the earth and Jacob keeping the cork of evil or whatever on the island to protect the earth. And though I don't think you can draw too much from a casting call description, I don't think this was a coincidence:
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Even at a young age, he has been put in charge of something very important, and it weighs heavily on his shoulders.
A month or so ago, you and I talked about how Jacob/MIB playing this game sort of reminded us of Greek Gods/Titans/demigods who were bound to repeat the same thing over and over again for eternity. Well, the only 2 I could think of at the time were Atlas(holding up the heavens) and Prometheus(chained to the mountain getting his liver eaten every day{which kind of made me think of MIB}). I'm not sure about twins, but Atlas and Prometheus were in fact, brothers.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 7:31 am to Hot Carl
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but Atlas and Prometheus were in fact, brothers.
poor logic. What Greek/Roman gods weren't related?? There was more inbreeding and inter-family fricking than Monroe, which as I'm sure you know is alot
Posted on 4/15/10 at 7:38 am to Uncle Stu
i dont think the hair color is anything other than showing that jacob is older...
obviously mib and jacob have had problems for a very long time... this boy keeps showing up to tease MIB... The hair isnt much of a big deal other then it might show that the boy has aged a bit, which would just mean to me that Jacob has always held this power over MIB and MIB is just reliving all the moments in time in which Jacob has been in charge of him... Jacob is kindof like a bully to MIB.
As far as who will kill the last candidate?
Not everyone is a candidate. The theory is that the candidates must die for MIB to escape... MIB just cant kill them. It has been stated that Claire is not a candidate... Many of the others arent candidates, so technically the 40 others on the island could end up killing the remaining 6 or so candidates. Doesnt mean that one candidate will remain
obviously mib and jacob have had problems for a very long time... this boy keeps showing up to tease MIB... The hair isnt much of a big deal other then it might show that the boy has aged a bit, which would just mean to me that Jacob has always held this power over MIB and MIB is just reliving all the moments in time in which Jacob has been in charge of him... Jacob is kindof like a bully to MIB.
As far as who will kill the last candidate?
Not everyone is a candidate. The theory is that the candidates must die for MIB to escape... MIB just cant kill them. It has been stated that Claire is not a candidate... Many of the others arent candidates, so technically the 40 others on the island could end up killing the remaining 6 or so candidates. Doesnt mean that one candidate will remain
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:44 am to The Eric
They won't die until the island is finished with them.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:49 am to The Eric
I'm in for the rewatch threads.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:54 am to Hot Carl
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Or that on a show where light vs. dark is such a huge theme, that a character with light hair in one scene, then dark hair the next won't evoke some sort of theories based on that imagery? Or that on a show that costs several million dollars per episode to shoot, that has been carefully crafted with every single detail purposefully placed, that the writers/creators/actors/crew have moved off the U.S. mainland and dedicated the last 6 years of their lives to create, that will likely be all their best life's work and the lasting legacy of their careers, that during the final season, with only 4 episodes left before quite possibly the most anticipated finale in television history decided to just fricking phone it in? You actually think NOW is the time to just poo-poo things like lighting and hair color? Get real.
Boom?
The twin thing actually makes a lot of sense. It would explain the closeness/hateness of the two. It would explain MIB calling his mother crazy (if she chose the "good son"). It might also explain how Jacob "stole his body". If Jacob kept his original twin body but MIB had to change
Posted on 4/15/10 at 9:13 am to Uncle Stu
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poor logic. What Greek/Roman gods weren't related?? There was more inbreeding and inter-family fricking than Monroe, which as I'm sure you know is alot
Posted on 4/15/10 at 9:15 am to Hot Carl
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To completely discount the difference in hair color based strictly on a casting call description found on Lostpedia is quite naive.
Let it go. I think I saw Sun's fingernails seemed to be a bit darker in the last episode than they were before. This HAS to mean something! Its too obvious.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 9:24 am to lsumatt
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It might also explain how Jacob "stole his body". If Jacob kept his original twin body but MIB had to change
interesting how we have seen Jacob in only one form, yet we have seen MiB in multiple forms. Its kinda like Jacob still has his humanity but all MiB can do is take human form of others but lacks humanity of his own
Posted on 4/15/10 at 9:34 am to Tiger Ryno
I wish there was a way to go back from season one to now and post the top 20 most retarded lost theories.
Probably would have to expand that shite to top 50.
Probably would have to expand that shite to top 50.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 9:37 am to guedeaux
Anyone have any ideas about why some people (Flocke, Sawyer, Desmond) can see the little guy and others (Richard) can not?
At first I thought it was candidates, but desmond isn't a candidate (as far as we know)
At first I thought it was candidates, but desmond isn't a candidate (as far as we know)
Posted on 4/15/10 at 9:38 am to The Boob
The rules don't apply to Desmond.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 10:04 am to joshnorris14
Here's a question.
What will happen to Richard in the alternate timeline? He has no future, or does he? Is he grounded to the island or is he like Desmond in that he can travel between the island and the outside world(how did he do that?). Is Richard's fate linked to Jacob(i.e. living forever).
What do you think? Tuck, Stu, many of you other quality LOST posters? TIA.
What will happen to Richard in the alternate timeline? He has no future, or does he? Is he grounded to the island or is he like Desmond in that he can travel between the island and the outside world(how did he do that?). Is Richard's fate linked to Jacob(i.e. living forever).
What do you think? Tuck, Stu, many of you other quality LOST posters? TIA.
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