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re: Lightyear flops earning only $51 million opening weekend

Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:37 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:37 am to
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Apparently the concept is too complicated and THATS why families didn’t show up.


I read one review where they said they had to recast Tim Allen as Buzz because kids wouldn’t understand the difference between the real Buzz and Toy Buzz if they were voiced by the same actor. How delusional and out of touch do you have to be to think that’s a good reason?

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:42 am to
I read similar they all parrot each other.

Also who’s voice is on the actual buzz lightyear toys from toy story? That’s right Tim Allen. It’s as if they pretend that Disney can’t walk around their own store and hit any toys voice box and realize “hey that’s the Actors voice from the movie”

The problem is they expect us all to join in on playing dumb with them
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:49 am to
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I read one review where they said they had to recast Tim Allen as Buzz because kids wouldn’t understand the difference between the real Buzz and Toy Buzz if they were voiced by the same actor. How delusional and out of touch do you have to be to think that’s a good reason?


Man that reviewer has, without a doubt, never met a child and has apparently forgotten what it's like to be one.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:40 pm to
Apparently it only grossed $34 million abroad: Breitbart

This may not even get to $300 million worldwide.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:48 pm to
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This may not even get to $300 million worldwide.


I saw somewhere that the break-even point for this film is $500M.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:17 pm to
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Fewer Kilometers

I knew one of you little buttholes would pucker over that.

Did you see the part where you were punked out in the popularity debate? Wow, all those toys! Miles Morales? Jesus, how much of a fricking cuck are you?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:29 pm to
This is a bomb, and the woke factor definitely played a part, but not nearly as much as you're trying to make it seem. In a different thread (I think), you said it should have been the highest grossing animated movie ever and gross 1.3 billion. That was just a completely unrealistic expectation that was never, even if there was no woke factors, was never going to happen.

There was bad marketing, no Woody, it's a spin-off, and the trailers just looked like it was a bad movie. That's not a good combo, even with a great character.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:33 pm to
And people just aren’t going to theaters to see these movies.

I dont Know if anything but big budget action films will ever really recover. Or if the future of movies is small theatre releases and streaming
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:03 pm to
Took my 6 year old son this afternoon. It was incredibly mediocre at best. He even shrugged when I asked how he liked it. He said it was ok and was upset that Buzz didn’t use his wings or laser pointer lol
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:28 pm to
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And people just aren’t going to theaters to see these movies.
Did you miss where Sonic 2 made 40% more when it opened on Masters weekend in April? It, too, has a target audience of families with young boys yet opened with $72 million. This IP was much bigger and should have blown it out the water.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 3:51 pm
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31356 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Just wait till Minions is released next week.

Maybe this will get people to stop gaslighting for Disney. A Gru prequel is going to destroy one of the most iconic animated characters of all time.

But it’s not the woke stuff. We promise.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:42 pm to
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This is a bomb, and the woke factor definitely played a part, but not nearly as much as you're trying to make it seem.


Dude, it’s looking like this isn’t going to even make $300 million at this point. No it’s the Woke shite and firing the most well known celebrity voice performance outside of Robin Williams being the Genie. That’s what’s off here.

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In a different thread (I think), you said it should have been the highest grossing animated movie ever and gross 1.3 billion.


It should have at least grossed the same amount as Toy Story 4. Yeah, it had the potential, but Chris Evans steals the role from Tim Allen and is a complete fricking dick to the fans being condescending as hell. If you had Tim Allen in the room with the marketing boys like Ryan Reynolds was in Deadpool, it would have just rained dollars.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 3:45 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Dude, it’s looking like this isn’t going to even make $300 million at this point.


I just said it was a bomb. I'm saying the woke stuff wasn't the reason it bombed that bad. There were a ton of factors, a lot that you're not acknowledging and some that had more of an impact than the woke stuff. Which i already mentioned.

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It should have at least grossed the same amount as Toy Story 4.


You keep saying this with no basis. It was expected to do around Sonic 2 or a little above. There's no debating that. 70-90 million. Toy Story 4 was projected to do about twice that, 140+ million. Your numbers are just made up B.S. to match your argument.
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:07 pm to
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If you had Tim Allen in the room with the marketing boys like Ryan Reynolds was in Deadpool, it would have just rained dollars.


Let me get this straight, because you are unclear: You think Tim Allen should be marketed like Deadpool?
Just curious- since you haven't mentioned that in this thread more than maybe 7-8 times.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:12 pm to
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I'm saying the woke stuff wasn't the reason it bombed that bad. There were a ton of factors, a lot that you're not acknowledging and some that had more of an impact than the woke stuff. Which i already mentioned.


Personally I thought the trailers looked pretty good except for the major bullshite that Tim Allen wasn’t Buzz, but back in December I was excited about the film. I m not going not only because it apparently sucks, but also telling me I’m a bigot if I don’t like the movie and it’s themes.

Well they apparently didn’t learn that with people like me on Star Wars and haven’t spent a single cent on the franchise since watching the Last Jedi in theaters, so I guess I’m now going to be boycotting Buzz Lightyear from now on. I already own Toy Story 1-3, so they’re not getting a cent out of me from this anymore, and I love Buzz Lightyear as a character.

As for Woody not being in the film, as someone pointed out, who has the theme park attractions and sells more merchandise than Mickey Mouse? It’s Buzz, not Woody. Woody is kind of an a-hole to be honest, almost to the point where it derailed Toy Story from the start, but Woody usually comes around that he’s in the wrong and tries to make things right in the end.

Puss in Boots, Minions, and Deadpool did fine, and they’re spin-offs, so no I’m not buying the spin-off being the problem, especially given Buzz is more popular than any of those characters.

And yeah, agree on the bad marketing. I’ll give that one being a bit of a problem here, but I think it’s more what and how they were marketing is the big problem.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:15 pm to
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Let me get this straight, because you are unclear: You think Tim Allen should be marketed like Deadpool? Just curious- since you haven't mentioned that in this thread more than maybe 7-8 times.


No, just go out in public, interact with people, have fun with the kids, and put it on YouTube. It’s cheap and would get the job done. Tim Allen is actually funny and could do well just talking like Buzz to the general public. Just picture how he was in Galaxy Quest but actually nice.

Instead you have Chris Evans out there being a dick to fans, going to Disneyland once, and calling people who won’t watch the movie bigots and they need to die out. So marketing super bad for this film.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:17 pm to
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Let me get this straight, because you are unclear: You think Tim Allen should be marketed like Deadpool?
Just curious- since you haven't mentioned that in this thread more than maybe 7-8 times.
Get this.

69 year old Tim Allen, dressed as Buzz Lightyear, looks into the camera and tells kids to get their parents' credit cards out of their wallets so they can get online and surprise the folks with tickets to see the new Buzz Lightyear movie! "And while you're at it, treat yourself to a couple of those R13 and R15 games your mom won't let you play!" Then you hear a fart, and Allen blames it on the cameraman as he walks out of the frame. After the announcer gives the movie info, you hear Allen (off screen), "Uh oh guys, I don't think that was a fart."
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 4:18 pm to
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You keep saying this with no basis. It was expected to do around Sonic 2 or a little above. There's no debating that. 70-90 million. Toy Story 4 was projected to do about twice that, 140+ million. Your numbers are just made up B.S. to match your argument.


Dude, Sonic is not as iconic as Buzz. Sonic is a relic of the 90s. A precious relic, but a relic nonetheless. Buzz should at least double the box office performance of Sonic, but they fricked everything up. I feel like I’m getting into the same arguments I did on Solo when it bombed.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37002 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 6:46 pm to
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It's pretty clear they knew they had a crap product so they threw in a lesbian kiss to get the critics who are all woke to rate it highly. Probably the first movie with groundbreaking wokeness that some critics rated poorly. You know the writers are shocked.


Wasn't there an article about some higher up at Disney, with a gay kid and a trans kid, gloating how Disney is allowing her to put whatever gay propaganda she wanted to put in their movies. And that she was trying to put one in every scene?
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16355 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:57 pm to
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He said it was ok and was upset that Buzz didn’t use his wings or laser pointer lol


By far the 2 coolest parts of they toy, and they never even got used in "Andy's favorite movie"?

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