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Let’s talk Varys for a minute
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:06 pm
First off I made some predictions about the end of the show awhile back. Many of them were wrong. My bad.
Back to Varys: This is a man that explicitly told Ned he was mad for approaching Cersei with information that culminated in Ned’s demise. But now Varys is just chilling in Dragonstone after advocating treason to the hand of the Queen, and after trying to turn Jon against her. Did he forget the game or did he make a bad assumption?
Seems like he would have been smarter than that.
ETA: A theory from reddit:
Back to Varys: This is a man that explicitly told Ned he was mad for approaching Cersei with information that culminated in Ned’s demise. But now Varys is just chilling in Dragonstone after advocating treason to the hand of the Queen, and after trying to turn Jon against her. Did he forget the game or did he make a bad assumption?
Seems like he would have been smarter than that.
ETA: A theory from reddit:
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No ones talking about the very beginning when the Spider was talking to his Little Bird. I think he was trying to poison Dany, but she wouldn’t eat so he was unsuccessful. This leads to his desperation and to him directly acting treasonous right in front of Jon and Tyrion. He knew all was lost
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:14 pm
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:07 pm to weagle99
Writers needed him to die fast...
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:08 pm to weagle99
Not a lot of options at this point. But one would think getting the frick out might have been better.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:08 pm to weagle99
It was Littlefinger all over again. Just awful.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:08 pm to weagle99
Varys would never be so foolish. They just needed to kill him off
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:08 pm to UltimaParadox
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Writers needed him to die fast...
The needed more screen time for the dragon pointlessly burning the city, as if we didn't get it the first 10 minutes.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:10 pm to weagle99
Varys went out just as shitty as a lot of others.
I dont even know why Tyrion betrayed him in the first place.
D&D needed Varys to die, so I guess they stretched things but it didnt make any sense to me.
I dont even know why Tyrion betrayed him in the first place.
D&D needed Varys to die, so I guess they stretched things but it didnt make any sense to me.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:12 pm to weagle99
He fundamentally gave up once when Melisandre told him that his destiny was to die in Westoros (and presumably soon). He saw the handwriting on the wall.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:14 pm to weagle99
Ned should have been smarter, their deaths are similar. Varys wanted to protect the relm at all costs and if he had left that wouldn't be possible. He had one hail mary left with Jon to prevent what he knew Dany was going to do. He needed to be there.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:14 pm to Navytiger74
A theory from reddit:
quote:
No ones talking about the very beginning when the Spider was talking to his Little Bird. I think he was trying to poison Dany, but she wouldn’t eat so he was unsuccessful. This leads to his desperation and to him directly acting treasonous right in front of Jon and Tyrion. He knew all was lost
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:15 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I dont even know why Tyrion betrayed him in the first place.
Good point
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:16 pm to Carson123987
He must have gone mad!
Mad Eunuch sold out by the Mad Hand to be killed by the Mad Queen!
Mad Eunuch sold out by the Mad Hand to be killed by the Mad Queen!
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:17 pm to weagle99
I enjoyed tonight’s episode but Varys, Tyrion, and Jon making dumb decision after decision is hard to swallow.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:18 pm to weagle99
The first thing I thought of was him trying to poison her
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:18 pm to weagle99
I wonder who Varys was writing to?
If it was the The Weekly Red Keep then the secrets still safe. Off topic but Brann’s a lazy little fricker.
If it was the The Weekly Red Keep then the secrets still safe. Off topic but Brann’s a lazy little fricker.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:19 pm to weagle99
The him poisoning her isn't a theory, it was pretty fricking obvious.
Unless he was going to greatly reward the child for the risk of delivering a piping hot meal
Unless he was going to greatly reward the child for the risk of delivering a piping hot meal
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:23 pm to weagle99
He was cast aside for other storylines.
But the only logical explanation for his actions were that he wanted Jon to see first hand why Dany wasn’t fit to rule.
Compound that with what varys thought was the inevitable burning rubble of king’s landing.
And you have a sacrifice to further ensure Jon tries to take the throne (or have Sansa come steal it after Jon dispatches Dany).
But the only logical explanation for his actions were that he wanted Jon to see first hand why Dany wasn’t fit to rule.
Compound that with what varys thought was the inevitable burning rubble of king’s landing.
And you have a sacrifice to further ensure Jon tries to take the throne (or have Sansa come steal it after Jon dispatches Dany).
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:38 pm to weagle99
They massacred the Varys plot line, that character would never do what he did in the show 
.
DnD ran out of options.
. DnD ran out of options.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:52 pm to TOKEN
quote:Varys was trying to send out a raven. Maybe to the Citadel, maybe to the North. He was just trying to get info out. But he died the way we expected, yes? Betraying his Queen for his ideals.
I wonder who Varys was writing to? If it was the The Weekly Red Keep then the secrets still safe. Off topic but Brann’s a lazy little fricker.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:56 pm to SabiDojo
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It was Littlefinger all over again. Just awful.
For how many seasons were you asking yourself “when is this fricker going to die?”. They finally do it and it wasn’t right or it was rushed?
Come on man
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