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re: Knight of the Seven Kingdoms teaser trailer

Posted on 10/9/25 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/9/25 at 1:42 pm to
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I think we'll at least get FaB 2 and a few more Dunk and Egg tales because they're easier to write. Maybe not another ASOIAF book, though. It's good in a way because everyone's stupid theories will never be disproven.

He stopped writing the 4th Dunk and Egg story to finish TWOW in 2013.
And a lot of Fire and Blood was cribbed from The World of Ice and Fire which was mostly written by the couple who run his fan club and site, Westeros.org.
So good luck with that theory.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/9/25 at 5:50 pm to
He's said he's resumed the Dunk stories and F&B 2.

I'm not super concerned. It's been a great ride so far.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/9/25 at 5:55 pm to
Christ. Help me. I’M IN!
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
10482 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:24 pm to
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He's said he's resumed the Dunk stories and F&B 2



Of course he is, it’s the easy work.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:53 pm to
Sadly none of it matters since it all leads to Bran.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:53 am to
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He's said he's resumed the Dunk stories and F&B 2.


And you believe him?

In May of last year he said he wasn't writing anymore Dunk and Egg until after Winds is finished. Soooooo he's not ever writing any more Dunk and Egg.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:59 am to
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Sadly none of it matters since it all leads to Bran.


Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Member since Sep 2016
18200 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:11 am to
I really believe they followed martins plan to a T. That’s just the shitty ending he came up with so he doesn’t want to release the books because it will cement the fact that he’s a dumbass who couldn’t stick the landing
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63327 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:30 am to
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And you believe him?

I don't really give a shite. I have more than enough material to geek out on. If he doesn't finish the series, I guess no one's theory will ever be disproven. Win/win.

But F&B and D&E are far easier to write than WoW. Having geeked out on it for many years now, I can appreciate the difficulty of resolving a story of such unbelievable complexity. The prequel stories, on the other hand, are already completed.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 9:32 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:48 am to
Glad your happy and not trying to argue, but what all is there to still geek out on?

Dunk and Egg is fantastic, I've read them twice now and it's such a fun story, but it's not done and you could read them in almost a day. Fire and Blood is just a boring encyclopedia... and incomplete. I mean I read it and didn't mind it but it's certainly not top tier fantasy. ASOIAF is obviously excellent but being incomplete knocks it down a good bit.

He is considered a top fantasy writer because he's still alive and a lot of people hold out hope/genuinely believe he will finish the stories. Once he passes away, he's just going to be a fantasy writer that couldn't finish any of his stories. Which really isn't that impressive. I know that sounds mean but it is what it is.

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If he doesn't finish the series, I guess no one's theory will ever be disproven. Win/win.


I think you're certainly in the minority here thinking that (if the number of pages for the final two books are indeed 1500+) getting about 60% of the total story/pages is a win/win. I personally could not give two shits about fan theories being right or wrong. I don't care to play things out like OML does and has every single characters story line plotted out in my mind because as we've already seen, they're wrong 99% of the time. You can go back and read the crackpot thread and see that. It was fun to talk about on here but if he dies and never finishes I'm certainly not going to think "Woo hoo, well at least my theory wasn't wrong!"

Sorry I just hate the guy so i rant
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63327 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:11 am to
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but what all is there to still geek out on?
The Empire of the Dawn and how it relates to current events, how many 'long night' events have happened, the origin of the oily black stone, the origin of the Ironborn and the Seastone Chair, what really happened at the Tower of Joy, voyages across the Sunset Sea, the cause of the Doom of Valyria and what exactly its current state is, Melisandre's age and origin, the glass candles, Quaithe, the origin of House Lannister, the origin of Houses Hightower and Dayne and their connection to the Empire of the Dawn, what Moat Cailin is and how it was built, the fate of Dark Sister, the origin of dragons.

That's just off the top of my head and doesn't even mention the numerous connections between the story and centuries of established folklore. Maybe none of those things interest you, but they do me and many others. Personally, I just enjoy dipping into the world. Closure would be nice, but I won't consider it a waste of time if we don't get it.

Plus, none of you bitches liked the Bran ending, so you probably won't like the book ending either, because I suspect they are the same.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
25752 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:23 am to
I didn't like House of the Dragon, but I will admit, this looks pretty good. I'm going to have to re-read the book before this starts.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40826 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:25 am to
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Maybe none of those things interest you, but they do me and many others.


quote:

but what all is there to still geek out on?


Those things were at one point fun to geek out on... when we thought there was going to be an ending. Most of the stuff is just useless to debate now that we know he's not going to finish.

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Plus, none of you bitches liked the Bran ending, so you probably won't like the book ending either, because I suspect they are the same


It wouldn't be my top ending but I would %100 be fine if that was the book ending, because I would be very confident that GRRM would get there in a much much better way than the show did. And even if I was disappointed in the ending, a disappointing ending is much better than no ending. Plenty of books that I love had disappointing endings but the story as a whole/journey was great.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63327 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 2:07 pm to
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but what all is there to still geek out on?


Those things were at one point fun to geek out on... when we thought there was going to be an ending
No, they still are, just not for you.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9244 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 2:31 pm to
I've not read the D and E stories so I'm just basing my view on the trailer and it has a bit of "A Knight's Tale" vibe. It seems to be a little "light" than GOT or HOD so I'll watch it and hope it's a good show.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13180 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 3:44 pm to
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It seems to be a little "light" than GOT or HOD so I'll watch it and hope it's a good show.


It's definitely less mature than the other two stories. I'm sure HBO can find a way to fit some nudity into the show, but the story of the Hedge Knight could be on regular television without cutting anything.
Posted by Scumbag from NewYork
Member since Aug 2025
87 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:31 pm to
why do fans have to wait until january...its clearly ready to be released right now gatdamnit
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2041 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:40 pm to
Martin finished his books, then he saw the world shite on it when the TV show ran the play. So he’s just gonna die and let someone else publish it once he’s gone so he doesn’t have to hear it. Get his estate or whomever a great payday.
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
71046 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:26 am to
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He is considered a top fantasy writer because he's still alive and a lot of people hold out hope/genuinely believe he will finish the stories. Once he passes away, he's just going to be a fantasy writer that couldn't finish any of his stories. Which really isn't that impressive. I know that sounds mean but it is what it is.


It’s spot on. frick that guy and his entire world. When the primary work isn’t completed for better or worse you’ve absolutely failed as an author.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33284 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:34 am to
That humor was cringe.
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