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re: Just watched Oppenheimer and I’m totally disgusted.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:29 am to GumboPot
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:29 am to GumboPot
I have a pretty good 5.1 Surround setup in our basement and there’s nothing more frustrating than a shitty sound mix in a movie where you have to crank the volume to listen to dialogue and then get blown out of your chair when they cut to another scene.
The wife said she read that this could be due to how these movies are compressed for streaming to reduce bandwidth needed but I have no idea if this is true. It does seem like less of a problem for some of my old Blue Ray disks though.
The wife said she read that this could be due to how these movies are compressed for streaming to reduce bandwidth needed but I have no idea if this is true. It does seem like less of a problem for some of my old Blue Ray disks though.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 8:42 am
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:29 am to GumboPot
Turn up your hearing aid, gramps
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:36 am to GumboPot
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LG OLED 77”
Click Settings on your remote and change the Sound Mode to Clear Voice Pro. It will enhance the dialogue and lower the sound effects and score. This setting is custom to each application or input you use, so make sure you update it for each one.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:39 am to Gavin Elster
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Nah, I saw it in the theater and the sound was fine. Nolan certainly has made films with very hard to hear dialogue but this one wasn’t one of them.
it was still a badly mixed movie, but not as egregious as normal for him
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:41 am to GumboPot
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What a pure shite show of a production. The fricking audio is crap. Why do actors whisper and talk under breath? You are not adding more drama and you are taking away from the story because I’m contemplating turning on CC the entire time. And not only are the actors whispering and talking under their breath the sound production crew mixes in the background music adding to the difficulty of hearing spoken word.
I had high expectations and was looking forward to the movie. I’m totally disappointed.
Did you try turning the volume up?
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:43 am to Sao
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you're a hard of hearing
You might be right. My wife complains I don’t listen all the time.
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Commie
Nah.
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watching on 40" 720p
I have a pretty nice system IMO. 77” LG OLED with Sonos surround sound.
I watch the movie with my 23 year old son and wife and they too said it was difficult to hear. Mumble is not our first language. Me and my son were talking about it and he showed me this article in People magazine:
Christopher Nolan on Why Dialogue in 'Oppenheimer' Is Hard to Hear at Times: It's 'an Artistic Choice'
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Christopher Nolan knows some of the dialogue in Oppenheimer is difficult to make out at times.
The three-hour historical drama — which has so far made over $500 million at the worldwide box office since debuting alongside Barbie on July 21 — has some moviegoers scratching their heads, unable to hear moments of dialogue.
Director Nolan, 53, recently told Insider this is because he doesn't have his actors return to the recording booth in post-production to recapture dialogue to make things clearer. This common filmmaking step is called automated dialogue replacement, or ADR.
"I like to use the performance that was given in the moment rather than the actor re-voice it later, which is an artistic choice that some people disagree with, and that's their right," he told the outlet.
Poor artistic choice, IMO. If I did not know about the Oppenheimer story prior to seeing the movie I would have been totally lost.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:43 am to Esquire
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Click Settings on your remote and change the Sound Mode to Clear Voice Pro. It will enhance the dialogue and lower the sound effects and score. This setting is custom to each application or input you use, so make sure you update it for each one.
Thanks for the tip.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:47 am to CP3forMVP
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Did you try turning the volume up?
Of course.
I still don’t know why in the 2020s actors in dramas have to whisper and talk under their breaths. Must be a new fad in Hollywood.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:51 am to FLTech
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FLTech
When your opinion aligns with this retard, you know you have to rethink life.
Gumbo, its time for some self reflection.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:56 am to Gavin Elster
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Nah, I saw it in the theater and the sound was fine. Nolan certainly has made films with very hard to hear dialogue but this one wasn’t one of them.
This. I was actually worried about the sound going into it. Most of Nolan's films, while great, are abysmal in terms of audio. So I was hesitant with a movie about nuclear weapons. But the sound was fine, and his choice of audio/lack thereof for the nuke testing scene was great IMO.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:00 am to CocomoLSU
I have been critical of Nolan's sound mixing in the past and this one was perhaps his best, or among them. Didn't have a single problem.
But, I did see it in the theater, as intended.
But, I did see it in the theater, as intended.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:01 am to Fun Bunch
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Gumbo, its time for some self reflection.
Come on Fun Bunch, we are talking about audio production for a Hollywood movie.
This is not trade or war policy that impacts a nations wealth and young lives.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:05 am to GumboPot
I was obviously being tongue in cheek
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:06 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:03 pm to GumboPot
It's pretty good but I do have to run the sound much higher than normal to hear all the dialogue.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:47 pm to GumboPot
I have a bose smart soundbar 900 with the base module 700 subwoofer and rear speakers. there is an option for dialogue mode on the bose app. uses AI to make the voices much more intelligible.
paid $2,500 for the whole bose system for my living room. feel bad for people who just want to casually watch Oppenheimer and not break the bank for a good quality audio system.
paid $2,500 for the whole bose system for my living room. feel bad for people who just want to casually watch Oppenheimer and not break the bank for a good quality audio system.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:40 pm to FLTech
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I thought it was extremely boring and annoying and very difficult to understand anything
To each their own I suppose. I bought it on amazon and enjoyed it so much I’ve watched the entire film in back to back nights
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:32 pm to GumboPot
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Get a decent audio system
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I have an LG OLED 77” with a Sonos soundbar, sub and surround sound.
I have to say, the fact that “I have a 77” TV with a soundbar” is a perfectly normal response to that comment in 2023 cracks me up a bit.
Regardless, I have a pretty damn nice system and I still have issues with dialogue in a ton of modern movies. The problem is that many of these movies are mixed with an unreasonable amount of dynamic range for home viewing. It’s not that my system can’t reproduce it correctly, it’s that you have to crank it loud enough for the neighbors to hear it if you want to be able to hear the quiet parts over background noise.
It’s almost like the home audio technology has reached a point where they just say “frick it,” compress the theater mix down to however many channels the home version of Atmos supports, and send it out the door. Which is fine if you have a very quiet, dedicated room or have the luxury of blasting it, but sucks for most viewers.
It would be nice if the next wave of audio formats included dedicated channels for dialogue so that you have more control (instead of having to use compression or dynamic EQ, which can be very hit-or-miss depending on the mix).
Posted on 11/23/23 at 5:17 am to Esquire
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Click Settings on your remote and change the Sound Mode to Clear Voice Pro. It will enhance the dialogue and lower the sound effects and score. This setting is custom to each application or input you use, so make sure you update it for each one.
Since OP is using a soundbar, adjusting the TV audio settings won't help.
OP needs to open up his sonos app, turn on the voice clarity mode (I can't remember what it's called). If still struggling, also turning on "night mode" should improve things a bit more.
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