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re: Just watched “2001 A Space Odyssey” for the first time. I didn’t get it
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:28 am to rebelrouser
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:28 am to rebelrouser
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Can you imagine seeing this in the theater when it first came out April 2, 1968?
I did see it in theaters when it first came out.
6 yr old me was in awe of the special effects but aside from that I had no idea what the movie was about.
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:45 am to Don Quixote
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Can you imagine seeing this in the theater when it first came out April 2, 1968?
quote:I was 7. I remember our parents trying to make sense of it by attaching religious allegory. Mostly it was seen (by the adults around me) as aliens advancing mankind past what we could comprehend, and the danger of our rapid advancement into technology (AI). The imagery and special effects more than made up for any lack of comprehension.
I did see it in theaters when it first came out.
6 yr old me was in awe of the special effects but aside from that I had no idea what the movie was about.
2001 may have helped Planet of the Apes, in that the films were released within weeks of each other and PotA was a way more accessible sci-fi film. When we saw PotA in the theater, I looked at my big brother at the end and he said, "They were on Earth the whole time." and 1st Grade me totally understood what they were trying to do with the movie.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:18 am to theantiquetiger
Man invents tool.
Tool becomes man and man becomes tool.
Man tries to get rid of tool.
Tool kills man and becomes man again.
Man evolves into starbaby.
Tool becomes man and man becomes tool.
Man tries to get rid of tool.
Tool kills man and becomes man again.
Man evolves into starbaby.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 11:20 am
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:26 am to theantiquetiger
Stanley Kubrick predicted the future.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:43 am to abellsujr
quote:Arthur C. Clarke predicted smartphones, email, video calls, home computers, search engines, etc. Video: Arthur C. Clarke 1976 Interview
Stanley Kubrick predicted the future.
The Clarke Belt is the band of satellites in geostationary orbit that Clarke predicted would someday replace the towers and cable systems of his day.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:52 am to rebelrouser
I saw 2001 in a theater on one of those “throwback” nights.
I’d seen it before but it was different on the big screen. The timing, imagery and score, it’s a masterpiece on those merits alone and must’ve been a mind bender in the 60s.
I’d seen it before but it was different on the big screen. The timing, imagery and score, it’s a masterpiece on those merits alone and must’ve been a mind bender in the 60s.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:29 pm to theantiquetiger
HAL was the only one knowing the true mission. As it is in his programming to update the crew, he could not tell them the true mission. He did not know how to lie. He suffered a breakdown and when David and other guy was going to basically shut him down, he killed the crew. He was programmed to be able to complete the mission on his own if necessary.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:35 pm to MasterKnight
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He was programmed to be able to complete the mission on his own if necessary.
He had the AI equivalent of a psychotic break. He came to the conclusion that he could not complete all the elements of the mission he was assigned:
1. Keep certain details from the crew
2. Keep the crew safe
3. Complete the mission as necessary
So, insofar as 1 and 2 were incompatible, he decided to eliminate the crew and just do 3, being obviously the main priority of those sending him on the mission (basically, if all else fails, they're good with it as long as the mission is successful).
He just didn't count on Dave.
*SPOILERS*
I really dug the way 2010 allowed the character to be rehabilitated and the opportunity to atone by heroism.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:38 pm to Sun God
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Monolith helps humans evolve
First one gave apes weapons
I get this
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Second one made us go full bore on solar system exploration
This makes a little more since now. I was thinking the moon scene and HAL scene were during the time period. The moon scene seemed more advanced than the HAL scene. The scene had a Hilton hotel and restaurants in space, plus space transports like an airline.
I was thinking the monolith helped mankind build AI (HAL), which became smarter than mankind.
The last scene, after the five minute drug induced, multicolor sequence, just completely went over my head. The moons of Jupiter were aligned up while the monolith flew by.
I was thinking the creation of the starbaby was due to mankind killing AI, causing mankind to go back to the start of man (a baby)
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:28 pm to theantiquetiger
quote:the star baby is bowman. the sequence after the space ride is bowman aging/evolving under influence of the advanced beings that created the monoliths
I was thinking the creation of the starbaby was due to mankind killing AI, causing mankind to go back to the start of man (a baby)
Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:09 pm to theantiquetiger
It's how we got the moon landing.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:43 pm to theantiquetiger
I saw it for the first time a few years ago, and I will get downvoted to hell, but I thought that movie was just awful
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:22 pm to SG_Geaux
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I really dug the way 2010 allowed the character to be rehabilitated and the opportunity to atone by heroism.
All of this.
2010 is a very good movie with a great cast.
A forgotten gem.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:52 am to ScottFowler
The movie gets some critical leeway because of who directed it, just like The Shining.
If those movies had been directed by lesser knowns, they would have been panned more heavily.
If those movies had been directed by lesser knowns, they would have been panned more heavily.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:45 pm to A12 Oxcart
Let me add a bit more about 'space travel'.
I worked in Chicago the summer of 68 in a building next to the Wrigley building. That was the summer that we put men on the moon for the first time, people shared TV sets and at noon we all went down to Michigan Avenue to watch TVs in the store windows. And the next week we went down to the street to watch the parade with the astronauts back from the moon. They rode sitting up on the head rests of the back seat of a convertible.
The moon was really big news.
That same summer I saw 2001 at a downtown inside the loop theater on a hot Saturday afternoon. Excellent acoustics and comfortable seats and anything seemed possible after the moon landing.
I remember how ominous Hal felt, in large part because of the stereo sound that filled the theater.
I worked in Chicago the summer of 68 in a building next to the Wrigley building. That was the summer that we put men on the moon for the first time, people shared TV sets and at noon we all went down to Michigan Avenue to watch TVs in the store windows. And the next week we went down to the street to watch the parade with the astronauts back from the moon. They rode sitting up on the head rests of the back seat of a convertible.
The moon was really big news.
That same summer I saw 2001 at a downtown inside the loop theater on a hot Saturday afternoon. Excellent acoustics and comfortable seats and anything seemed possible after the moon landing.
I remember how ominous Hal felt, in large part because of the stereo sound that filled the theater.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:00 pm to ScottFowler
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2010 is a very good movie with a great cast.
A forgotten gem.
I saw 2010 first in the theater as child and in some ways still prefer it to this day to 2001.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:06 pm to theantiquetiger
Interstellar feels like a spiritual successor to 2001. You can tell Nolan was inspired by the film and wanted to pay homage
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:11 pm to theantiquetiger
Book series made based on the Kubrick Movie>>>> the movies
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:18 pm to real turf fan
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I worked in Chicago the summer of 68 in a building next to the Wrigley building. That was the summer that we put men on the moon for the first time, people shared TV sets and at noon we all went down to Michigan Avenue to watch TVs in the store windows. And the next week we went down to the street to watch the parade with the astronauts back from the moon. They rode sitting up on the head rests of the back seat of a convertible.
Your memory is off or you had a typo. Apollo 11 landed on the moon in 1969, not 1968.
And 2001 came out the year before the moon landing, in 1968.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 12:06 am to BRich
I was a freshman at USL in Lafayette in 1968.
You need to understand where we were as a society in 1968 when it came to using computers. USL had just started using computer cards for class registration. You stood in line to get a newspaper showing course classes, time and day schedules. You picked your top 3 choice for each class then handed them in. You stood in line the next day to get your cars back to see if you got your choice. LSU still required students to go to either the Ag center of the Old men's gym on top of victory hill and go stand in line at various stations to get their class schedules filled out. But at LSU, if you followed the football players, you had a shot at getting in a class with easy teachers.
Planet of the Apes was warning us of the dangers of nucleur war. Simple as that.
2001 was warning us about the danger of computers taking over.
You need to understand where we were as a society in 1968 when it came to using computers. USL had just started using computer cards for class registration. You stood in line to get a newspaper showing course classes, time and day schedules. You picked your top 3 choice for each class then handed them in. You stood in line the next day to get your cars back to see if you got your choice. LSU still required students to go to either the Ag center of the Old men's gym on top of victory hill and go stand in line at various stations to get their class schedules filled out. But at LSU, if you followed the football players, you had a shot at getting in a class with easy teachers.
Planet of the Apes was warning us of the dangers of nucleur war. Simple as that.
2001 was warning us about the danger of computers taking over.
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