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ohiovol
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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People mean having the back story of the Joker.


I wasn’t really responding to those in this thread so much as paid critics who throw that out.


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WicKed WayZ
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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This is a completely different character.


Is it though? Didn’t seem like it to me


Bamadiver
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Because that's not even the only origin story of the Joker's smile in that movie alone
100% correct. Just daydreaming a bit. I'm not convinced an origin movie should be done. Part of the character's appeal is having no idea how a human being fell that far into madness.


Loaner1231
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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The world would stop spinning if they put out a live action Killing Joke with Barbara raped and crippled


Depends on who'd they cast for Barbara.


WicKed WayZ
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
Then why was The Killing Joke so we’ll received? It was an origin story. I get the argument that it was also about Barbara and Batman but people saying the Joker doesn’t need an origin story are likely the same ones who have a copy of The Killing Joke in their bookshelves.


Green Chili Tiger
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Is it though?


It shows him taking care of (living with?) his mother.

It shows him struggling with mental illness while he's still trying to be a comedian.

It shows him seeking help for his mental illness.

This is all brand new stuff for this character.


Ssubba
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
Assuming the kid is Bruce, the Joker we see in the trailer isn't the real "Joker", otherwise there would be a crazy age difference. This will be an origin story in the sense that he is going in inspire some other guy to be the villainous Joker.


swagsurfin7
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
A few of the scenes in this trailer actually made me feel sympathetic for the character. I think Phoenix is going to be incredible.


Loaner1231
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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This will be an origin story in the sense that he is going in inspire some other guy to be the villainous Joker.



Perhaps. Or maybe he doesn't do anything big or crazy enough to get Batman's attention.


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Fewer Kilometers
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Then why was The Killing Joke so we’ll received?

Because it was Alan Moore torture porn. It was supposed to be a shocking one off take on Batman and the Joker. But, like Watchmen and Dark Knight, fans embraced it as "how superhero comics should be" and the comics companies morphed to the point where the "shocking" stories were the new norm.


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CarRamrod
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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That is a bit of a stretch.

how so? he signed up.


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PhilipMarlowe
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Member since Mar 2013
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
YESSIR! looks great, and nothing like a comic book movie.

~Please be rated R~


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Jizzy08
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Plus Dr. Strange showed that Cumberbatch's acting range has limits.


Image: http://www.clotureclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/JkMX5aE0kwcx.gif


CarRamrod
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
what ever happened to "You created me, I created you...."
This post was edited on 4/3 at 9:29 am


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ZappBrannigan
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
Give him a goddamned sandwich!


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Hawgnsincebirth55
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
I really don’t know if I like the idea of the joker being “turned” crazy. I always see him as someone who was just a pure psycho. Some people just like to watch the world burn. Idk hope I’m wrong but I don’t need nor want the joker to be a tragic villain.


CarRamrod
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Idk hope I’m wrong but I don’t need nor want the joker to be a tragic villain.

well judging by the kids fricking with him and beating him up with his sign, and the guys on the train making fun of him and beating him up, it looks like he is being made into a tragic villain.
This post was edited on 4/3 at 10:35 am


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PhilipMarlowe
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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it's a pointless movie that goes against the character a bit.




lol


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DJ3K
New York Yankees Fan
Member since Dec 2011
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
Holy shite that trailer was amazing

Joaquin Phoenix is going to rivial Heath Ledger for second best Joker of all time.

fricking ecstatic to see this


BlackAdam
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Member since Jan 2016
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
I'd prefer a series of contradictory Joker origin stories, all told by the Joker to different audiences. Like a character study expansion of "you know how i got these scars."


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