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DarthRebel
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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we find out Han was part of the empire


That is a bit of a stretch.


BOSCEAUX
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Honestly, I don’t get the hate either. Looks like a loose adaptation of one of the greatest Joker stories ever told: The Killing Joke



Thought it looked great and nobody can deny that Phoenix has the chops to kill this part.


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Green Chili Tiger
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Looks like a loose adaptation of one of the greatest Joker stories ever told: The Killing Joke




If by "loose adaptation" you mean completely different, then sure.


SlowFlowPro
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
ok that trailer was beasting


Loaner1231
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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If by "loose adaptation" you mean completely different, then sure.


Well, he looks to at least try his hand at comedy and he is with a woman at a diner. He has a wife and is a comic in Killing Joke so it isn't completely different.



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WicKed WayZ
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
Looked like he’s a failed comedian that has a love interest and he slowly fails into madness (which isn’t a part of the one bad day concept the Joker has in Killing Joke) but the concept is there in spirit.


He’s got one of the best Joker laughs already, just from the trailer. I was pretty skeptic until I saw the trailer and I was blown away. What did people expect? That this was going to be a hard comics take on the Joker with surprise cameo appearances from Batman, Gordon and Harley and for him to get doused in a vat of chemicals?


SlowFlowPro
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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but it is a sham they are making "society" create the joker.


Make Joaquin Phoenix say "We live in a society" in the new Joker film



Pilot Tiger
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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ok that trailer was beasting
yea, no clue if the movie will actually be good but that was excellent


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Freauxzen
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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This movie looks like it's going to attempt to give me more insight and back story on the Joker than I really want.


This. It's unnecessary.


Phoenix will kill it for sure sure, but it's a pointless movie that goes against the character a bit.


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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
Image: https://geekwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/joker-origin-killing-joke.jpg


Don't need to know how some bullies pushed him over the edge. Although that trailer may be misleading.
This post was edited on 4/3 at 9:00 am


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Pilot Tiger
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
every movie is unnecessary

if the story is interesting the performances are good, who cares really?


SlowFlowPro
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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but it's a pointless movie

if it's a one-off, i don't think it's pointless. you have to just keep it within the film itself and it's fine


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WicKed WayZ
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
I can see that and partly the reason why I was skeptical going into the trailer. But I’m sold on it. I hope Phoenix is the Joker going forward


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ohiovol
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Nobody will be able to fill the shoes of Heath Ledger




I tend to agree. Say what you want about Hamill, Nicholson, Phoenix, being closer to the comics, etc., Ledger’s Joker is just special. Now Phoenix may very well do a great job, but for me, Ledger’s Joker is the GOAT on screen villain.


ohiovol
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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every movie is unnecessary

if the story is interesting the performances are good, who cares really?


Agreed. Calling a movie unnecessary feels like lazy criticism to me.


Mystery
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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Agreed. Calling a movie unnecessary feels like lazy criticism to me.


People mean having the back story of the Joker.


Freauxzen
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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The bottom line is that in any movie we never see “our” personal interpretation of the Joker or any other character. We are going to see Todd Phillips’ and Joachim Phoenix’s interpretation. That’s all. Our personal interpretations... the Jokers in our minds... are all still valid. This is not a zero sum situation. I’m eager to see this take on the character.


I disagree a little here.

There's a difference between
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interpretation
and rebuilding.

An interpretation would be another take on the the core of the character, one whose origin is fluid, who's foil is Batman, etc. Interpretations generally mean the important parts of the subject are the same, but the trappings, the results, the execution is different.

This is a completely different character.


UnluckyTiger
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
I thought the trailer was trash. I’ll still go see it but meh. Big fan of Joaquin too.


Fewer Kilometers
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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I'm convinced one of the reasons Marvel chose Benedict Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange was to keep DC from hiring him to play the Joker in a bad-ass Killing Joke movie.

Thank God for us dodging that imaginary bullet. People bitch about DC movies being too dark. The world would stop spinning if they put out a live action Killing Joke with Barbara raped and crippled and the footage shown to her father during his own torture session. Plus Dr. Strange showed that Cumberbatch's acting range has limits.


Freauxzen
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re: 'Joker' Official Trailer #1 Starring Joaquin Phoenix (update)
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every movie is unnecessary



I don't mean as a film, as a backstory.

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if the story is interesting the performances are good, who cares really?




I'd return the question with:

If the performances are good, and the movie is good, why does it have to be "The Joker," and why can't it be some other character?


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