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re: James Bond producer reveals the next 007 actor will offer a “really different” character

Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:01 am to
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:01 am to
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Maybe I'm in the minority but those Spider-Man flicks have pretty much all been more entertaining than they have been good, and the Holland ones have been getting worse with every entry.

You are in the minority, Holland's Spider-Man movies are all good movies and haven't been getting worse. In what way are they worse? What's the reasoning there? Amy Pascal has had tremendous success as a producer, Ghostbusters being the one glaring exception.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:14 am to
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Maybe I'm in the minority but those Spider-Man flicks have pretty much all been more entertaining than they have been good,


I get what you're saying but entertainment is the only reason I watch movies. I'm not a film student trying to learn something, I'm not a sociologist studying pop culture. Is it fun to watch for a couple of hours? I'm good with that. There are "good" things I don't find entertaining and entertaining things that are probably not considered "good" by most people.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8569 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:20 am to
You don’t hire Denis Villanueve and try and meddle with the production. I’m not concerned about some random producers
Posted by ShrimperDan
Fernandina
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:24 am to
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There are "good" things I don't find entertaining and entertaining things that are probably not considered "good" by most people.


I don't even mean from a "science of filmmaking" sense or anything high minded like that. I don't expect (or even want) everything to be Apocalypse Now or something. My bar for "good" is really more about something being more enjoyable or notable than a "throw this on for 2 hours and forget about your day at work for a bit" type movie.
Posted by ShrimperDan
Fernandina
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:39 am to
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Holland's Spider-Man movies are all good movies


I disagree, but its subjective. Entertaining, yes. Particularly good, no.

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In what way are they worse? What's the reasoning there?


They have gradually been turning into slop from a plot perspective.

We went from a refreshing take on the usual Spider-Man formula that didn't just recycle previous villains and do a 1 to 1 rehash of the origin story with the first one. Vulture is a Peter problem, not an Avengers level threat and that works, especially for the entry to the series..

Now we have universe (or at least global) level threats because we ALWAYS have to up the stakes, ghosts of dead characters stopping the villain with the power of friendship, and supposed genius Peter Parker almost ending the world so his friends could go to college (which was just a bad plot point to bring in the recycled villains.

Admittedly part of what is making these movies worse is the overall MCU dragging them down with it.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:21 am to
You mean to tell me an emotionally weak Bond who cried wasn’t already a completely different take on the character?
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13097 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:43 am to
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My guess is he is a beta


I’ll have an organic vodka martini with two heirloom olives. Swizzle stick stirred, not barbarically shaken. The name is Johnathon, Johnathon bermanthal Emerson Bond the fourth. Code name zed zed seven.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110576 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:47 am to
Yep, they left off the big beard she was supposed to have.
Posted by DVA Tailgater
Bunkie
Member since Jan 2011
3499 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:51 am to
Heyman, Pascal, and Villeneuve have really good track records. I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Amazon/MGM needs this to be a hit to bring the franchise back to life.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30880 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:59 am to
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Code name zed zed seven

Z-Z-7?
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27196 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:59 am to
Hopefully its just like the recent Bond novels



No women, non-whites, or disabled people in his coup? What a monster.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7201 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:00 am to
Of course it will be a "really different take".

Bond doesn't work in this era. He's a capable, physically aggressive and intelligent caucasian male with a strong streak of nationalistic pride. The franchise has also always thrived off a sense of humor. None of these things are accepted or thrive in modern big budget cinema. Bond had become a joke when Craig was playing him. This will likely be worse.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15931 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:20 am to
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Of course it will be a "really different take".

Bond doesn't work in this era. He's a capable, physically aggressive and intelligent caucasian male with a strong streak of nationalistic pride. The franchise has also always thrived off a sense of humor. None of these things are accepted or thrive in modern big budget cinema. Bond had become a joke when Craig was playing him. This will likely be worse.


I'm hoping what they mean is that, since they've already said they're aging down the character, that we will see his "origin story", so to speak. It could also mean they're changing his race and/or sexuality. There was a rumor a while back that he would be bisexual. I don't think they will go that route, but who knows these days. Hollywood has already shown that they have no qualms with fricking up characters and stories that are beloved by the masses.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
116991 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:28 am to
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There was a rumor a while back that he would be bisexual. I don't think they will go that route, but who knows these days


this was implied in Skyfall
Posted by DVA Tailgater
Bunkie
Member since Jan 2011
3499 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:03 am to
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Bond doesn't work in this era. He's a capable, physically aggressive and intelligent caucasian male with a strong streak of nationalistic pride. The franchise has also always thrived off a sense of humor. None of these things are accepted or thrive in modern big budget cinema.


It worked in 007 First Light
Posted by Miganey
Austin, Tx
Member since Feb 2013
3843 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:10 pm to
For anyone that loves Bond films as much as I do you should play 007 First Light. I think its a solid addition to the universe
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30880 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:19 pm to
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For anyone that loves Bond films as much as I do you should play 007 First Light. I think its a solid addition to the universe

I love the theme song from Stargirl.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131589 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:22 pm to
We already know they were looking at Jacob Elordi and Callum Turner, both guys are like 6’5”

They have hired Denis Villenueve

I think it’s clear they are just going with a younger, inexperienced, physically imposing Bond and DV is likely taking a different take than previous versions.

That’s it. They aren’t making Bond a transgender Pakistani
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
10363 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:23 pm to
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Daniel Craig's Bond was no different from Jason Bourne or Ethan Hunt


Not according to that snot nose punk Matt Damon
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14442 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:54 pm to
Would be cool to see a young bond before coming 007. The end of movie 1 could be him becoming 007,
—Like Casino Royale?

They should set Bond back in the early 1950s, when the Cold War was fresh and the UK still mattered. Oh, and men were men and women liked them that way.
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 8:58 pm
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