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re: James Bond is Not a Code Name
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:18 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:18 pm to RollTide1987
So you wrote all that to justify why James Bond can’t be a black guy?
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:23 pm to RollTide1987
TL;DR
If Pierce Brosnan, can be James Bond, anyone can be James Bond
If Pierce Brosnan, can be James Bond, anyone can be James Bond
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:25 pm to RollTide1987
Is this all because of possibly casting Idris Elba? I agree Bond is always the same person, just with different actors. This is different, but Elba is a great British actor so I don’t see how you couldn’t just suspend disbelief like with all the other cast changes. You even mentioned some of the side characters like Q, Moneypenny and Leiter. The latter 2 have both been played by white people before but Naomie Harris and Jeffrey Wright played them most recently and no one really batted an eye. Why is this different?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:14 pm to Starchild
Simple solution.
Idras Elba as Malcolm Gray - 008, License to kill.
Create a new character working for MI6.
He would be outstanding.
Idras Elba as Malcolm Gray - 008, License to kill.
Create a new character working for MI6.
He would be outstanding.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:22 pm to RollTide1987
1967. Casino Royale. Revealed that James Bond is a code name. James (David Niven) Bond is retired, his name has been passed down to a new operative.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:26 pm to memphis tiger
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So you wrote all that to justify why James Bond can’t be a black guy?
And yet he’s fine with a black Felix Leiter and Miss Moneypenney.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:29 pm to Roaad
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They have the opportunity to cast an amazing british star in the role, who happens to be black
Virtue signaling!
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:32 pm to RollTide1987
You are not wrong.....
but you are also wrong.
Of course Bond in his original form is not a codename. That's true. And while many Bonds prior to Craig were more like "tv spidoes in theaters," Craig turned it into one big story.
But the idea that Bond is a codename, is a clever twist that blends with the realities of having multiple films, multiple actors, over multiple years.
Nothing wrong with that idea to take advantage of real limitations.
but you are also wrong.
Of course Bond in his original form is not a codename. That's true. And while many Bonds prior to Craig were more like "tv spidoes in theaters," Craig turned it into one big story.
But the idea that Bond is a codename, is a clever twist that blends with the realities of having multiple films, multiple actors, over multiple years.
Nothing wrong with that idea to take advantage of real limitations.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:52 pm to RollTide1987
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The biggest piece of evidence? His wife.
You mean the one that no longer ever existed since they rebooted the series?
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:21 am to Fewer Kilometers
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And yet he’s fine with a black Felix Leiter and Miss Moneypenney.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:59 am to RollTide1987
James Bond is the cover name assigned along with 007, everyone knows that
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:06 am to RollTide1987
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Is an orphan and was orphaned at a young age
While I agree with you, the orphan thing doesn’t support your position.
In Casino Royale, the new one, when he meets his female contact on the train and they play their “I can guess things about you” game she guesses he is an orphan. She then states that “they” (MI6) look for orphans to recruits as double O’s implying that most of the agents are orphans, former SAS, graduates of Cambridge, etc. Basically she makes the point that Bond isn’t so special amongst his peers.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:35 am to Roaad
Not going to happen. The reboot of Dr. No starring Melissa McCarthy is going to set the world on fire.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:17 am to RollTide1987
More overt than subtle, but in Skyfall his parents’ tombstones say Bond, and the groundskeeper he knew from childhood refers to him as James. Blofeld knew him as James Bond as a boy as well.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:36 am to RollTide1987
All of this is correct.
Bond is white, period.
I have no issue with rebooting characters with other performers regardless of race (so long as they have talent for the role) - for example, the Rock could be the T-100 for a rebooted Terminator, a black actress could play Sarah Connor or Ellen Ripley.
But, as for a character that is "iconically" white (or iconically black [should Matthew McConaughy play Kunta Kinte in a Roots sequel]), that shouldn't be fricked with.
Bond is white, period.
I have no issue with rebooting characters with other performers regardless of race (so long as they have talent for the role) - for example, the Rock could be the T-100 for a rebooted Terminator, a black actress could play Sarah Connor or Ellen Ripley.
But, as for a character that is "iconically" white (or iconically black [should Matthew McConaughy play Kunta Kinte in a Roots sequel]), that shouldn't be fricked with.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:04 am to RollTide1987
I swear, yall get whinier and whinier by the day 
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:32 am to udtiger
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But, as for a character that is "iconically" white (or iconically black [should Matthew McConaughy play Kunta Kinte in a Roots sequel]),
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:37 am to udtiger
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But, as for a character that is "iconically" white (or iconically black [should Matthew McConaughy play Kunta Kinte in a Roots sequel]), that shouldn't be fricked with.
Wow
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:37 am to Fewer Kilometers
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1967. Casino Royale. Revealed that James Bond is a code name.
Not apart of the Eon Productions canon. Nice try though.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:39 am to Starchild
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This is different, but Elba is a great British actor so I don’t see how you couldn’t just suspend disbelief like with all the other cast changes.
They can, they just don’t want to
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Why is this different?
You know why
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