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re: Infinity war reaction and SPOILERS thread
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:18 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:18 pm to Green Chili Tiger
I would argue that he was probably starting to feel somewhat disillusioned by the time the hammer scene in Ultron came around, with SHIELD turning into Hydra during WS, and seeing his ideals clash with everything from that point. The Cap leading up to Avengers1 would have been more naive, but his ideals and the belief in them would probably deem him more worthy.
Just because he nudged it on a table but didn't lift it doesn't mean he was faking it. It would have been basically weightless if it had deemed him. I mean it's hard to say how it'll play out though, they could do it so many different ways, but it'll be epic regardless.
Curious, though, Stark goes back in time through QR, so we will be dealing with OG avengers in a different timeline? I mean either one person goes back in time and then there exist two copies, or is it all happening in one reality similar to Days of Future Past?
Just because he nudged it on a table but didn't lift it doesn't mean he was faking it. It would have been basically weightless if it had deemed him. I mean it's hard to say how it'll play out though, they could do it so many different ways, but it'll be epic regardless.
Curious, though, Stark goes back in time through QR, so we will be dealing with OG avengers in a different timeline? I mean either one person goes back in time and then there exist two copies, or is it all happening in one reality similar to Days of Future Past?
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 1:19 pm
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Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:22 pm to Merck
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You're forgetting that the Hulk had never been beaten before. Never. It makes sense that his psyche is severely bruised now.
I know I'm way late on this, but this was my only complaint for what was a really incredible movie (just got out). The Hulk's power is that he gets more powerful the angrier he gets. So with every punch of Thanos, Hulk should have gotten stronger and stronger. I liked the angle that Banner/Hulk was having an inner conflict, but I was hoping that was established in the previous Thor movie.
In this movie we have Iron Man and crew going toe-to-toe with Thanos with four stones for 20 minutes. And they damn near beat him. But we had Hulk going toe-to-toe with a one-stone Thanos for ten seconds.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:27 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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I'm sticking with the theory that Steve was worthy enough, but his reasons for trying to lift it just then were not.
I like this.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:39 pm to StringedInstruments
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In this movie we have Iron Man and crew going toe-to-toe with Thanos with four stones for 20 minutes. And they damn near beat him. But we had Hulk going toe-to-toe with a one-stone Thanos for ten seconds.
I think the point was Thanos overwhelmed him so quick that Hulk was shocked more than angered. Plus Heimdall transported him out of there before he could get over the shock and start getting pissed off.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:56 pm to Merck
Well.
To be fair.
He was also knocked the frick out.
To be fair.
He was also knocked the frick out.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:58 pm to StringedInstruments
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Hulk should have gotten stronger and stronger
The movies don’t really portray this aspect. He’s just big and bad and that’s enough.
Plus, Thanos has to be able to handle hulk to be a legit bad guy worthy of all the buildup.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:58 pm to musick
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He didn't spare Tony, he thought he might have been part of the vanishing, he even says it.
When?
Posted on 5/23/18 at 12:17 am to Volvagia
Rewatched it tonight.
Sudden thought- I don't think Stark goes back to Earth. Let's see what we have on Titan... Stark, Nebula, the Milano (Starlord's ship).
Does Nebula have any desire to go see Earth, just because? Don't think so. But- Nebula does overhear where the Soul Stone was, Vormir. Maybe she goes there with Stark to find Gamora, and ... finds Red Skull. Dude seems awful introspective now; and he also seems to understand the Stones on a deeper level than even Thanos did.
Iron Man, Nebula and Red Skull, sounds like an interesting combination. Tony wants revenge, as does Nebula; Skull wants the Stones. We'll call them Team A.
Team B- the Avengers on Earth. Not sure if Thor and Sweet Rabbit stay there, or Bifrost out looking for revenge... wait, Sweet Rabbit probably knows a way to track and find the Milano, if given the resources (of Wakanda and Banner). Then, Thor can Bifrost Team B to it.
Leads to a Cap/Skull meeting, which should be a highlight. If Skull actually loves anything, it might be Cap's perfection... his plan to sacrifice Steve somehow in order to gain the Soul Stone. Or, sacrifice himself in order to gain access to Soul World.
I think Captain Marvel is a misdirection. You can't make Infinity War, and then defeat Thanos by introducing another character after the fact. She may be a key player, but likely not any more than Thor (powered up but helpless in the face of the power of the Stones). If she comes along and saves the day, that's bad writing, and this saga doesn't seem like it will tie up that way.
Sudden thought- I don't think Stark goes back to Earth. Let's see what we have on Titan... Stark, Nebula, the Milano (Starlord's ship).
Does Nebula have any desire to go see Earth, just because? Don't think so. But- Nebula does overhear where the Soul Stone was, Vormir. Maybe she goes there with Stark to find Gamora, and ... finds Red Skull. Dude seems awful introspective now; and he also seems to understand the Stones on a deeper level than even Thanos did.
Iron Man, Nebula and Red Skull, sounds like an interesting combination. Tony wants revenge, as does Nebula; Skull wants the Stones. We'll call them Team A.
Team B- the Avengers on Earth. Not sure if Thor and Sweet Rabbit stay there, or Bifrost out looking for revenge... wait, Sweet Rabbit probably knows a way to track and find the Milano, if given the resources (of Wakanda and Banner). Then, Thor can Bifrost Team B to it.
Leads to a Cap/Skull meeting, which should be a highlight. If Skull actually loves anything, it might be Cap's perfection... his plan to sacrifice Steve somehow in order to gain the Soul Stone. Or, sacrifice himself in order to gain access to Soul World.
I think Captain Marvel is a misdirection. You can't make Infinity War, and then defeat Thanos by introducing another character after the fact. She may be a key player, but likely not any more than Thor (powered up but helpless in the face of the power of the Stones). If she comes along and saves the day, that's bad writing, and this saga doesn't seem like it will tie up that way.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:31 am to GetEmTigers08
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Curious, though, Stark goes back in time through QR, so we will be dealing with OG avengers in a different timeline? I mean either one person goes back in time and then there exist two copies, or is it all happening in one reality similar to Days of Future Past?
willing to bet Marvel Studios does time travel far superior to DFOP
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:57 am to SSpaniel
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Doesn't bother me in the least. I can read the entire script and still enjoy the movie.
Finding out what happens by reading the script isn't exactly the same as somebody blurting out key details that ruin any/all of the dramatic moments of a movie though.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 6:29 am to Merck
The banner on earth is Loki posing as banner
I hope
I hope
Posted on 5/23/18 at 6:52 am to Scoob
Maybe we get a repeat of ironman 1. Trapped in a foreign country/planet and builds something game changing from a technological standpoint
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:28 am to Scoob
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I think Captain Marvel is a misdirection. You can't make Infinity War, and then defeat Thanos by introducing another character after the fact. She may be a key player, but likely not any more than Thor (powered up but helpless in the face of the power of the Stones). If she comes along and saves the day, that's bad writing, and this saga doesn't seem like it will tie up that way.
I doubt it's a misdirection as a very famous actress has already be cast for the role. However, I agree that it's lame to introduce a new super strong character. This is supposed to be closing of a volume, and I want to watch the characters we've grown to love and understand figure out how to stop Thanos with the stones.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:28 am to Cow Drogo
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The banner on earth is Loki posing as banner
not a bad theory there, but where was Banner the whole time?
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:13 am to TeddyPadillac
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not a bad theory there, but where was Banner the whole time?
I don't like the theory, but if it's true, hopefully off doing some science brilliance to dismantle the gauntlet. I didn't like how they disrespected his supreme intelligence in IW.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:36 am to Cow Drogo
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The banner on earth is Loki posing as banner
I'd prefer this to "scared Hulk".
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:37 am to StringedInstruments
Yah they had to have the minority female make banner look stupid in wikanda
#disney inclusiveness
#disney inclusiveness
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:46 am to StringedInstruments
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I didn't like how they disrespected his supreme intelligence in IW.
Marvel went the hidden figures route
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:48 am to Fewer Kilometers
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The banner on earth is Loki posing as banner
I'd prefer this to "scared Hulk".
Would be a cool theory but if it was Loki, there’s be no reason for the scene with Banner arguing with his inner Hulk self when no one else was around.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:51 am to Fewer Kilometers
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I'd prefer this to "scared Hulk".
While a nice theory, and while it would explain why he was so damned weird in IW, it makes no sense. It's one thing for him to mimic Banner when others are around, but why would he be doing it when he's on his own in the Hulkbuster? I guess concern the AI (Friday in that one too?) would recognize him, but that's too convenient.
Plus, Loki's not able to maintain his illusions when he's half a galaxy away (remember, Loki's body remained on the ship after Heimdall sent Hulk to Earth).
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