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re: Infinity war reaction and SPOILERS thread
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:20 am to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:20 am to WicKed WayZ
Just got out. Initial thoughts: Enjoyed it but the ending felt very hollow and didn't have any emotional impact for me. I know Marvel doesn't have the balls to leave characters like Black Panther or Spiderman actually dead.
Stark or Cap really needed to die in sacrifice but they're probably saving that for part 2.
Stark or Cap really needed to die in sacrifice but they're probably saving that for part 2.
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:57 am to xenythx
No emotional impact? Really?
I thought there was tons of emotion throughout
I thought there was tons of emotion throughout
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:02 am to WicKed WayZ
Safe to assume that Hawkeye and AntMan will play a big part in the next one?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:07 am to WicKed WayZ
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No emotional impact? Really?
I thought there was tons of emotion throughout
I'm not saying the whole movie had no emotional impact.
I'm speaking specifically about the deaths at the end that were supposed to "shock" everyone. I just don't believe for a second that Spiderman or Black Panther or half the GotG are actually dead.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 3:32 am to xenythx
I agree with the other poster who said that the next one was def set up to get the originals back together one last time before they sail off. I def think most who died will be back but others will have to take their place like Stark and Cap. Cap and Stark still have to reconnect and Cap get the shield back.
A few more random thoughts:
Holy shite Stormbreaker wrecked shop. Is it that much more powerful than Mjolnir?
Was Strange’s “plan” the one out of 14 million that helped them win, meant to be that he knew he was going to die and that Thanos was going to get the stone anyway but needed Stark to live because he knew they would lose on Titan no matter what?
My only complaints are that Hawkeye and Hulk didn’t show face.
Who all is left at this point?
Black Widow
Cap
War Machine
Iron Man
Hulk
Thor
Rocket
Who am I missing? Possibly Ant Man, the Wasp, Hawkeye and Faptain Marvel?
A few more random thoughts:
Holy shite Stormbreaker wrecked shop. Is it that much more powerful than Mjolnir?
Was Strange’s “plan” the one out of 14 million that helped them win, meant to be that he knew he was going to die and that Thanos was going to get the stone anyway but needed Stark to live because he knew they would lose on Titan no matter what?
My only complaints are that Hawkeye and Hulk didn’t show face.
Who all is left at this point?
Black Widow
Cap
War Machine
Iron Man
Hulk
Thor
Rocket
Who am I missing? Possibly Ant Man, the Wasp, Hawkeye and Faptain Marvel?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 4:46 am to LaBornNRaised
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It’s pretty obvious that everything that happened was the 1 and 14 million thing that needed to happen as Strange said would be the only way they would win.
His line right before death to Stark about this is the way it has to be; I believe proves that
My one problem with that is it seems like they win if they get the gauntlet. Then they high tail it to Thor.
So.
Why wasn’t part of the plan Strange telling Nebula (or someone) her sole job being to keep Quill from Thanos. Just walk away.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 6:34 am to Volvagia
I thought of so many of those what-if scenarios, but always kept going back to Strange's explanation about the 1 in 14 million. I decided we just have to take what he says at face value: no matter what decision any character could have made differently, it would have still lead to the same end result, even if the path getting there was different, i.e. Thanos getting the stones and hittin' that snap.
And what's crazy is that there was obviously no sequence of events that did not end with Thanos wrecking shop, because the one sequence that Strange decided could work still involved Thanos getting his way along with the snap. This one opportunity just so happened to align in a way that would leave Tony alive, the right circumstances working in their favor(even while Thanos is omni-everything at the moment), and the right post-snap superheroes.
I kind of look at it like this: Tony has/will have the vision/plan, the right circumstances are the tools for this vision/plan, and the characters are the ones that will make this vision a reality. With Captain Marvel, Hawkeye, and Ant-Man basically being no-show this round, they and Tony are gonna be the means to that 1 in 14 million.
NOTE: Though, I do wonder in Strange's observation of all scenarios, surely he couldn't know for sure the little things that would have to occur after Thanos got his stones and Tony was left alive, but that this was the one sure way that would have the means to stop Thanos? I wasn't sure on this as far as his abilities when doing his multi-timeline observations.
And what's crazy is that there was obviously no sequence of events that did not end with Thanos wrecking shop, because the one sequence that Strange decided could work still involved Thanos getting his way along with the snap. This one opportunity just so happened to align in a way that would leave Tony alive, the right circumstances working in their favor(even while Thanos is omni-everything at the moment), and the right post-snap superheroes.
I kind of look at it like this: Tony has/will have the vision/plan, the right circumstances are the tools for this vision/plan, and the characters are the ones that will make this vision a reality. With Captain Marvel, Hawkeye, and Ant-Man basically being no-show this round, they and Tony are gonna be the means to that 1 in 14 million.
NOTE: Though, I do wonder in Strange's observation of all scenarios, surely he couldn't know for sure the little things that would have to occur after Thanos got his stones and Tony was left alive, but that this was the one sure way that would have the means to stop Thanos? I wasn't sure on this as far as his abilities when doing his multi-timeline observations.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 6:41 am
Posted on 4/28/18 at 7:14 am to GetEmTigers08
Rewatched
When TS said why did you do that? DS said it was the only way.
When I first saw it I thought DS said it with a look of resignation on his face. This was in keeping IMO with his zen-like acceptance of fate. However, when I saw the scene again it seemed like he smiled as though he knew something.
Did anyone else catch that?
Also the who Wakandan battle scene was expertly set up and directed. In a movie this big pacing is important and there was some issues with with it to start with. But the back half of the film and the final battle flowed so smoothly that I did not realize how long it lasted even after seeing twice. And they did a marvelous job of not overwhelming the viewer until the end which was superbly handled.
When TS said why did you do that? DS said it was the only way.
When I first saw it I thought DS said it with a look of resignation on his face. This was in keeping IMO with his zen-like acceptance of fate. However, when I saw the scene again it seemed like he smiled as though he knew something.
Did anyone else catch that?
Also the who Wakandan battle scene was expertly set up and directed. In a movie this big pacing is important and there was some issues with with it to start with. But the back half of the film and the final battle flowed so smoothly that I did not realize how long it lasted even after seeing twice. And they did a marvelous job of not overwhelming the viewer until the end which was superbly handled.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 7:39 am to xenythx
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Stark or Cap really needed to die in sacrifice but they're probably saving that for part 2.
No not really
Posted on 4/28/18 at 7:42 am to WicKed WayZ
Nebula
Posted on 4/28/18 at 7:45 am to xenythx
Thanos throwing haymakers at the beginning on Hulk was freaking awesome.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 7:57 am to hg
BTW, Black Panther did it's job. There were a hell of a lot more blacks at my showing than either of the previous Avengers (or Civil War).
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 8:07 am
Posted on 4/28/18 at 7:57 am to jackmanusc
Man Thor has gone through some real kick you in the balls level shite since Thor 3
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 7:58 am
Posted on 4/28/18 at 7:59 am to Ross
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Man Thor has gone through some real kick you in the balls level shite since Thor 3
Since before that, he lost his mom in Thor 2
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:04 am to The Godfather
completely forgot about that
when they killed Loki ten minutes in and showed Thor and the Hulk, the two most powerful fighters, getting their asses handed to them, I felt pretty hopeless for the Avengers.
Strange and Stark and company had Thanos beaten though. At least they could have gotten the Gauntlet off. Quill completely doomed everyone.
when they killed Loki ten minutes in and showed Thor and the Hulk, the two most powerful fighters, getting their asses handed to them, I felt pretty hopeless for the Avengers.
Strange and Stark and company had Thanos beaten though. At least they could have gotten the Gauntlet off. Quill completely doomed everyone.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 8:53 am
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:10 am to Broski
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If Korg is dead, I may go burn the Russo's house
I was really hoping there would just be a quick scene where Korg also hits the Guardians’ windshield while floating in space and being like, “Nah, don’t worry about me, guys. I’m just gonna float here for a while. See ya later.”
Doesn’t really matter what his line would be, I just know I would’ve lost my shite regardless.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:10 am to Ross
Thanos just wrecking everyone in Wakanda truly shows how powerful he is. And honestly he could have killed all of them easily, but that's not what he wanted to do. Thanos is by far my favorite MCU villain
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:14 am to WicKed WayZ
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Faptain Marvel
Nice. Brie Larson does it for me, too.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:25 am to dawgfan24348
After stewing on it, I definitely think the "random" ashing of the Avengers was meant to make space for the original Avengers to shine in Avengers 4 as their final act. I wouldn't expect more than cameo's out of any of them, except maybe Thor, after that.
The Russo's are the master's of this genre. I never got overloaded and bored in the final battle, which tends to happen in a lot of these super hero films with a big final battle. They just know how to film interesting, fun fights, and pace them perfectly. They also know when to drop a joke and when to let the moment be.
The Russo's are the master's of this genre. I never got overloaded and bored in the final battle, which tends to happen in a lot of these super hero films with a big final battle. They just know how to film interesting, fun fights, and pace them perfectly. They also know when to drop a joke and when to let the moment be.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:26 am to WicKed WayZ
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Faptain Marvel
I concur.
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