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re: In your opinion, what's the greatest set-up and pay-off in cinematic history?

Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Chardee MacDennis
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Posted by RedPants
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:15 am to
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I am Iron Man. Same line 11 years apart.

This is probably it. And it was more than just that line.

“You’re not the type to make the sacrifice play. To lay on the wire.”

“I think I’d just cut the wire.”

Strange knowing the 1 way they won the entire time and struggling to hold back the info from Tony.

Downey plays it so well when right before he takes the stones and snaps, the look on his face as he’s working out everything that has happened and what he has to do. Cinema.
Posted by BRich
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:22 am to
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There are others, but the first one that came to mind for me was when I first saw Oceans 11 (on vhs )


On VHS, I assume you mean the original Rat Pack version.
Which is great and a great example.
Posted by UGATiger26
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:53 am to
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Would the Sixth Sense fall into this category?


Admittedly, the thread went a different direction than I envisioned, but there's still a lot of great examples.

By "set-up," I was thinking more along the lines of an isolated scene or line of dialogue which the viewer doesn't think much of at the time, but then comes full circle later in the film.

As excellent storytelling examples as they are, I wouldn't consider movies where the entire plot is leading up to a twist ending as a "set up." But maybe I'm just being too myopic in my definition.

I do think Shawshank Redemption (Andy's rock hammer and posters) qualifies under what I was thinking. That may be the best I can think of after reading this thread.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:59 am
Posted by A12 Oxcart
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Not a movie, but amazing nonetheless.


A really powerful scene, but book readers called him that for decades after the tasteless joke.
Posted by BRich
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:58 pm to
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By "set-up," I was thinking more along the lines of an isolated scene or line of dialogue which the viewer doesn't think much of at the time, but then comes full circle later in the film.



Another example of that is in "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood":

1. The scene from "The 14 Fists of McCluskey" with the flamethrower.

2. Just after, the flashback scene of Rick Dalton (Leo DiCaprio) training with the flamethrower.

3. When Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt) goes into the shed to get a tool belt, wire and gloves to fix the TV antenna, in the background you can see the flamethrower up against the wall:


4. At the movie's climax, Rick jumps out of the pool, runs to the shed and dramatically comes back with the flamethrower, burning Sadie Atkins (Mikey Madison) to a crisp just after she aims a gun at him.
Posted by ThoseGuys
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:11 pm to
Yeah so more of what was in Hot Fuzz? Because I swear on second viewing like every throw away line ends up coming back into play later in the movie.
Posted by Bham4Tide
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:37 pm to
The setup:

The payoff: >
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Laugh More
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:52 pm to
Nope, had oceans eleven Clooney Pitt version on vhs
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:25 pm to
Kelly's Heroes. I f'luved the ending even though it had no actors I was much of a fan of. My mind holds on to so many of the scenes at the end. that they are my equivalent some nights of counting sheep to fall asleep.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:42 pm to
I wish Dogma was available on BluRay.
Posted by TygerTyger
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 6:17 pm to
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By "set-up," I was thinking more along the lines of an isolated scene or line of dialogue which the viewer doesn't think much of at the time


One that fricked me up big time was Blair Witch Project.

One of the townsfolk mentions how the witch made someone stand in the corner. It's an easily forgotten about line and then at the end, when it happens, it's so quick that it's easy to miss it.



The first time I saw it I didn't remember the line.

A few days later I was talking with a friend and he mentioned it and I got chills.

A lot of folks bag on this movie, but I think it's brilliant. Especially for when and how it was done.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 6:23 pm to
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William Munny walks through the stormy night and kills the men who decorated their bar with his friend Ned.

“You just shot an unarmed man!”
“He shoulda armed himself if he’s gonna decorate his bar with my friend.”
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 6:49 pm to
Most of the greats have been mentioned, so I’ll go with an outstanding recent example - The Black Phone

Posted by Dairy Sanders
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:53 pm to
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Strange knowing the 1 way they won the entire time and struggling to hold back the info from Tony


There’s a theory that there were more ways that they could win, but Strange couldn’t see the wins that would require him to die and stay dead. There’s also a lot of theories that he saw many ways to defeat Thanos but too many heroes would be sacrificed or they would defeat Thanos but not kill him/leave themselves vulnerable to another threat or just general chaos.
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 9:55 pm to
Tarantino’s movies have a lot to pick from.

Pulp Fiction has Bruce Willis’ carnage of the rapist

Once Upon a Time has Pitt kicking the dirty hippy’s arse for flattening his tire.
And
Pitt and Decaprio finishing off the dirty hippies that attempted to murder them. The flame thrower setup and delivery, the dog food can setup and delivery…[chef’sKiss]

Django has Jamie Foxx getting revenge and making Samuel L Jackson suffer.

So many more in these films and other Tarantino films.

I can’t pick one.
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:25 pm to
Not saying it’s the greatest, by my personal favorite from recently is Upgrade (2018).



Excellent, unexpected ending and when you re-watch it, it all makes sense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:26 pm to
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wish Dogma was available on BluRay.

I own one of the rare copies
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:53 pm to
Watched Jaws this weekend and thought of this thread.

When Brody accidentally unties the wrong knot causing Hooper's air tanks to fall, Hooper yells at him and briefly explains what might happen with the compressed gas. The tanks are shown here and there for the rest of the movie until Brody throws one in Jaws' mouth and says the famous "smile you son of a bitch" line then hits the tank blowing up Jaws.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 8/19/24 at 4:19 pm to
Not greatest, but I always thought the way that Shamalan tied all of the pieces together at the end of Signs to be really clever. The girl filling cups of water, the asthma and especially the part when he tells Merrill to “swing away”.

The movie has its flaws but is still really good.
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