re: I still can’t believe how bad the Disney Star Wars sequel trilogy was

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I liked the concept of Finn, but did not enjoy Boyega nor where they took his character. Even in TFA it was way too rushed. Overall execution for what that character could be was done so poorly.

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the concept of a disillusioned stormtrooper was pretty cool. but the idea that a stormtrooper was this bumbling, goofy, lovestruck doofus was awful. the character should have been literally the opposite of all of those things. once Finn takes off the stormtrooper armor there is literally no connection to him being anything other than a goofy idiot. you almost immediately forget that he was a stormtrooper actually.

and not to mention that he is presented as being this violent soldier having an existential crisis and struggling with killing - only to turn around and start absolutely stacking First Order bodies immediately.

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I liked the concept of Finn, but did not enjoy Boyega nor where they took his character. Even in TFA it was way too rushed. Overall execution for what that character could be was done so poorly.

the concept of a disillusioned stormtrooper was pretty cool. but the idea that a stormtrooper was this bumbling, goofy, lovestruck doofus was awful. the character should have been literally the opposite of all of those things. once Finn takes off the stormtrooper armor there is literally no connection to him being anything other than a goofy idiot. you almost immediately forget that he was a stormtrooper actually.

and not to mention that he is presented as being this violent soldier having an existential crisis and struggling with killing - only to turn around and start absolutely stacking First Order bodies immediately.

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I think it's cool that they created a defector in the storm troopers... but I didn't know stormtroopers were all different types of people. I thought they were all clones from Bobba Fett's dad or something...

Clones were too expensive apparently haha

Almost as bad as what Amazon has done to Tolkien's works...

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Almost as bad as what Amazon has done to Tolkien's works...

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Anything Disney star wars has put out doesnt hold a candle to what amazon did to the wheel of time

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Almost as bad as what Amazon has done to Tolkien's works...

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Lord of the Rings as a property isn’t damaged by it though. None of that is cannon, and the books and film trilogy hold up quite well regardless.

Star Wars is dead for millions though. Not one person turned on Tolkien for what these Woke turds have done to it.

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So many words/conversations leading to nowhere. I

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what?

why is it the same 2-3 people that defend star wars to their last breath. every thread they hijack. its fascinating. this is not directed at you

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Spoken like someone that hasnt seen Andor yet

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Andor was fantastic, I also enjoyed Rogue One and the first couple of seasons of Mandalorian. That being said, it does not come close to offsetting the negative impact of everything else. In the words of Erlich Bachman, "Motherfrick. I gave you the ability to spin gold, and instead, you’ve spun pubic hair with shite in it, and gravel and corn..."

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Towards the end of the OG trilogy, the empire was hurting for money and the clones costs a ton to produce, so they started filling the ranks with normal citizens, which is why the 501st legion was still so well regarded, they were one of the last batches of OG stormtroopers left.

So, it makes sense that getting this far out, the quality of a stormtrooper would be less and there would be a chance of defection as they weren't trained clones anymore, just volunteers/forced volunteers basically.

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this is the kind of nonsensical retcon you have to buy into to make the sequel trilogy make any kind of sense. the Empire at the peak of its power in the OG trilogy was hurting for money (already doesnt make sense), so it was somehow the more economical plan to not make clones anymore but to rip civilians out of their homes as conscripts?

ok say we buy that ludicrous premise. now you have to ask, why is the Empire short of money? well the only answer would be because the Rebellion is taking a significant toll on them. so their answer is to drive millions more people into sympathizing with the Rebels by enslaving their fighting age males?

and why is it more expensive to jsut keep making clones? the entire facility was already set up and churning them out, but now it's cost prohibitive?

the Empire I mean the Forst Order clearly has had enough success to basically take over the entire galaxy again and they have seemingly endless military equipment...but they still have to fill their stormtrooper ranks with untrained civilians because that's all they can afford?

i get that in made-up space opera land you can explain anything away, but that's lazy as frick, and people with even a shred of critical thinking capability are turned off by this, not to mention that it's OBVIOUSLY just retconning bullshite caused by enormous plotholes.